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    Rack server recommendations

    Hiya,

    looking at a new rack server to run a small thinclient network.

    Would consider a tower if the cost and performance far out weighed a rack server.

    But due to space a rack would be preferrable.

    Anyone any recommendations of models they use?

    Thanks

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    Define small, and what's your budget?

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    20 clients

    Not sure of budget

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    Also, what will the clients be running in their sessions? ie. Multimedia stuff or just office and internet?

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    multimedia etc

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    We use a HP DL385 G7 for our VDI server hosting 20 VDI images - including thin clients, lics and all hardware cost was ~ 9,000.

    At the moment our server uses 4x15k hard drives however will be swapping that out for a SSD soon enough.

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    I just bought 2 DL360's with 100GB ram dual 6 core xeon for about 4.5k each

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfed View Post
    We use a HP DL385 G7 for our VDI server hosting 20 VDI images - including thin clients, lics and all hardware cost was ~ 9,000.

    At the moment our server uses 4x15k hard drives however will be swapping that out for a SSD soon enough.
    What would the software/licences costing be for your setup?

    How much for the server?

    Thanks

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    For 20 x thin clients, I'd suggest getting Citrix XenApp - a full XenDesktop type install would be overkill IMO.

    A server to handle 20 XenApp clients could be anything basically. An HP DL360 G7 such as this one: HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Performance 579239-421 | Insight UK would be far more than enough to handle it, and give you a massive amount of space for expansion should you want to. One with half the RAM and only 1 CPU would do the trick even.

    For XenApp, I believe you're looking at around 150 a license for it.

    So, if you speak to a HP reseller directly, you'd probably be able to get that server for about 3k, plus a couple of 15k RPM hard disks. So, total cost about 6.5k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duxbuz View Post
    What would the software/licences costing be for your setup?

    How much for the server?

    Thanks
    The latest figures we have had (based around 30 VDI seats) were around-

    178/thin client (10zig with 3 yr warranty)
    4220 - HP DL385 G7 - 2x16core AMD Opteron, 80GB RAM, 240GB OCZ PCI-E SSD
    100/VDI lic with upgrade protection for 3 years (55/VDI lic without any upgrade protection)

    Personaly I would mix it in with App-V as well which is dirt cheap from Microsoft.
    The VDI software is Citrix VDI-in-a-box and it uses the same HDX protocal as XenApp does.

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    Is there a lower priced server that would be sufficient, without making my boss throw his hole punch or stapler at me wen I mention the cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duxbuz View Post
    Is there a lower priced server that would be sufficient, without making my boss throw his hole punch or stapler at me wen I mention the cost?
    This is why I mentioned budget earlier. Is the one I listed too expensive?

    If so, how about one of these? HP ProLiant DL360 G7 Base 579240-421 | Insight UK If you talk to a reseller, you'd probably be able to get that, plus a couple of disks for 2.2k I'd guess.

    It has a single CPU and 6GB RAM. For 20 users in XenApp, this would be plenty. If you want VDI, then you'd probably want to add some more RAM and another CPU.

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    A HP DL165 (1U rack) with 1x12 (2.4ghz) core processor, 44GB RAM and a PCI-E SSD would come to about 2.2k as well - none of this Intel stuff here and it would do full on VDI.

    We run our current 20 seats off a 8 core 2.0ghz with 44GB RAM and 4x15k SAS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesfed View Post
    A HP DL165 (1U rack) with 1x12 core processor, 44GB RAM and a PCI-E SSD would come to about 2.2k as well - none of this Intel stuff here and it would do full on VDI.
    I'd be *very* surprised if you could get that at that price. What make SSD? The DL165 doesn't have 6GBPS SATA, so it'd have to be a PCI-E SSD, and the only ones of them I know of at any affordable price would be OCZ, and putting one of them in a server is not something I'd do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    I'd be *very* surprised if you could get that at that price. What make SSD? The DL165 doesn't have 6GBPS SATA, so it'd have to be a PCI-E SSD, and the only ones of them I know of at any affordable price would be OCZ, and putting one of them in a server is not something I'd do.
    Server cost - 1100
    5x8GB RAM sticks - 575
    OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E 3x2 240GB - 400 (we have tested this drive with VDI and are using one in a production enviroment at the moment with no issues what so ever in the past 3 months - OCZ utils are reporting none of the spare blocks have been used yet and the performance is 100x better (random IO) than our 4x15k SAS)

    Add in a little extra for a HDD or 2 to boot of and boom 2,200.

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