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A secondary school is considering turning down almost £14 million ...
26th June 2008, 07:56 PM #1
School set to refuse £14m in BSF cash
school refusing BSF funding because they don't want managed Services..
SecEd | School set to refuse £14m in BSF cash
A secondary school is considering turning down almost £14 million in funding from the Building Schools for the Future (BSF
) programme, if it is forced to sign up to a centrally-procured ICT
Tollbar Business and Enterprise College in Grimsby believes the system is inferior to the computer system it already has in place. If an agreement is not reached, it could become the first school in the country to willingly refuse money under the BSF
Last edited by Grommit; 28th June 2008 at 07:33 PM.
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26th June 2008, 08:03 PM #2
It is important to note that the school has been shuffled down in the order of re-builds and the partnership has not yet accepted their decision.
He added that agreement had been reached with Tollbar to review its options and that another school would now replace it as the first school to benefit locally from BSF
funding. “We’ll continue to work with Tollbar but we recognise together that deadlines are tight,” Mr Edwardson said.
26th June 2008, 08:06 PM #3
It is also important to note that this is a school refusing to accept the money, not demanding the complete control of the money to allow them to fund IT they way they believe it should be. We are still not at that stage yet.
26th June 2008, 08:07 PM #4
Send this head a Gold Edugeek Badge!
Originally Posted by Grommit
26th June 2008, 08:15 PM #5
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Originally Posted by GrumbleDook
26th June 2008, 08:40 PM #6
I hope they dont get BSFed from an IT Managers possition.
Would love to know what the out come is on this... Is the IT guys from this school on here? If not, we need to get them on here and find out what is happening. Im sure we will all back them up on this. If they dont go down the BSF route, i wouldnt mind seeing what system they have in place as our Head of IT doesn't want the BSF in either as likewise "it will be a step backwards". It has taken him 7 years and me 3 to get the network to where we want it to be.
26th June 2008, 08:47 PM #7
Originally Posted by sahmeepee
Nice to see that Head's are starting to take notice of the mess BSF will make of education for the benefit of profit-making companies.
26th June 2008, 09:01 PM #8
Is it just me, or is their site down at the moment, wanted to read that article! Anyone got a copy of it, or is it too long to post??
EDIT: Don't worry, it seems to have come back!
26th June 2008, 09:02 PM #9
A secondary school is considering turning down almost £14 million in funding from the Building Schools for the Future (BSF) programme, if it is forced to sign up to a centrally-procured ICT system.
Tollbar Business and Enterprise College in Grimsby believes the system is inferior to the computer system it already has in place. If an agreement is not reached, it could become the first school in the country to willingly refuse money under the BSF scheme.
Under the terms of the programme, schools in north east Lincolnshire have to take part in a centrally-managed ICT system in order to qualify for a share in an estimated £107 million in funding.
Tollbar was to be one of the first schools in the area to undergo building works, including replacement of existing technology and art blocks, and mobile classrooms with permanent buildings.
But David Hampson, the principal, said signing up to the ICT system could compromise the standard of education being offered at the school.
“Of course this money would be a fantastic boost to Tollbar, as it would be to many other schools in Grimsby,” he said.
“However, our main priority has always been to improve standards for our students and, if necessary, we will continue to do this in the existing buildings rather than sign up to an ICT system which we consider would inhibit the progress of ICT at this school.
“We have repeatedly asked for written confirmation of the fact that we do not have to sign up for this ICT system, but have not received a clear and concise response, and we now have only until September to sign up or lose the funding.
“The proposed centrally-managed system is, in our opinion, not comparable to what we already have in place and therefore would be a major step backwards for us,” he added.
North East Lincolnshire Council has recently submitted plans for £107.7 million of BSF funding to Partnerships for Schools (PfS), the body set up to deliver BSF. The proposals will now be assessed and forwarded to the Department for Children, Schools and Families for approval. The council must then create a detailed plan, to be submitted by September 16 for final approval.
Mr Hampson added: “We do not wish to be seen as the bad guys here, but protecting the interests of our pupils is our main priority and we will not take what we consider to be a major step backwards in educational provision, even if it means that inevitably we are forced to turn down this funding.”
North East Lincolnshire Council said Tollbar was an “excellent school” and the council wanted it to be part of the development.
Roger Edwardson, the deputy director of learning, said: “I believe we can find middle ground which will meet Tollbar’s needs but allow us to act on behalf of all our schools to get the best possible deal. With this amount of money we can free schools from the burden of procuring and managing complex ICT systems.
“The new managed ICT service will enable pupils to collaborate and share learning within their local community.”
He added that agreement had been reached with Tollbar to review its options and that another school would now replace it as the first school to benefit locally from BSF funding. “We’ll continue to work with Tollbar but we recognise together that deadlines are tight,” Mr Edwardson said.
A spokeswoman for PfS added: “The local authority, supported by PfS, is still in dialogue with this particular headteacher in the hope of reaching a solution which is viable within Building Schools for the Future and which also meets the needs and aspirations of the school. As talks are continuing, we do not feel it appropriate to comment in detail about this particular case.”
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26th June 2008, 09:03 PM #10
26th June 2008, 09:11 PM #11
Thanks for that, Interesting article it is too. I'm going to be really interested to see the outcome, probably like many of you on here, as *if* they managed to get their hands on the cash without having to subscribe to the managed service, I think that will open up the possibilities for a lot of other schools in their position, or soon to be in their position.
I hope someone manages to keep us posted on developments.
26th June 2008, 10:54 PM #12
One important thing to remember is that this is an outstanding school that is a centre of excellence in a number of areas, as well as having political clout in the right circles.
This is why *they* can do things that many other schools don't stand a hope in hell of doing.
27th June 2008, 08:32 AM #13
I think it will end up with a compromise; they will be offered money to refurbish/rebuild but the ICT funds will be withheld unless they sign up for the managed service. To do otherwise would open the floodgates in schools & LAs all over the country, and I cannot see the Govt allowing that as there is too much at stake politically.
Good luck to them anyway.
27th June 2008, 08:44 AM #14
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That is one of the cleverest decisions about the whole BSF project that i have seen after nearly 2 years involve in this long,tedious and useless process...
Good head Teacher!!!!!
27th June 2008, 09:55 AM #15
Props to the Head for putting the kids first and refusing to be bullied. Props to the Govenors too for having the balls to back their head 100%.
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