Just kind of sad, don't need support, I volunteer that. I know the equipment. The firmware or IP if you want to call it that is only good to people with old hardware anyway. I understand that they want to sell new equipment and the profit margin needed, but I would think these companies when provided legitimate proof that they are trying to be used in low or no budget non-for-profit organizations could just make the firmware/licenses available. Still very useful hardware for the needs of small NP's and saves the landfill. Just seems to me at least on a per case basis, the right thing to do. Fortinet refuses though, I have pleaded.