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Roll-out BYOD, Internet and printing access only
san_narula replied to san_narula's topic in How do you do....it?
This is going to be a deal breaker for us. We want to achieve this without spending any money on it. :-)- 14 replies
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The objective is to have each student in the school with a device they can use in the classroom. As we can't afford to do it, it has been decided that we let them bring their own to cut costs. Actually, I should have mentioned that 'IT not touching their devices' means us not installing anything on their devices because *students don't like it*. So I would like to know how this would work?To start with you are going to need meet the "Prevent Strategy". Its compulsory...or an obligation. Or whatever words you would like to use. Thanks for a very helpful post. I knew it is not going to be something simple and you have confirmed that.- 14 replies
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We already have a solid backbone and will be upgrading our broadband in near future so covered well there.- 14 replies
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As far as I know schools are required to authenticate all the students and staff so that won't work well. - - - Updated - - - We are currently looking at Cisco, Ruckus and couple of others. Will be decided next week.- 14 replies
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I have been asked (told) we roll out BYOD for students across all year levels. It needs to be setup so that students should be able to bring their own device to school and connect to the school wireless network without IT even touching their device. My concern is, the risks it will pose on the rest of the network. They are going to bring their machines full of malware and will be able to freely connect any number of devices to download their personal stuff.To give you some idea of our network, it comprises of HP Procurve switches which are VLANed and subnetted but there are no ACLs as such to restrict access. We are running Windows Server 2012 R2 on VMware for most of the services. We are in the process of upgrading our wireless to cope with the increase in the number of devices and throughput.I know it is definitely possible but have no idea how it will work in reality as I have always worked in a tightly controlled environment where no such thing would ever happen. Moreover, I don't have advanced networking skills and don't have time to learn within the required timeframe as we are a very small team with a lot of pressure. Also, I would like not to use the production network as a guinea pig even if I gain the skills somehow.I would like to know if anyone else has done it and what is required to make it happen. Also, what are the challenges I should be prepared for and the implications it may have on the network and the school as a whole?
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Thanks for pointing that out. I will be marking the exact location of the ports before they start drilling.
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This has already been done and we will be very close to one AP per classroom.
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I won't bring it again with them but I already know the answers (some of these have been discussed in the past in our meetings).Phones - We will never have phones in the classroomsDigital Signage - What do we need this for, we are only a schoolInteractive TVs/whiteboards - We have bought them before and no one uses themProjectors - This is already includedCCTV - This is included as wellDoor access control - Not hereAutomated overnight Windows deployments from SCCM - We are moving away from Windows and school owned computerscable doesn't seem like such a waste anymore - Not to me but still does to them
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Not this time. We did though in the past.I have been able to get the budget approved for enterprise wireless this time.
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We will definitely be keeping the admin PCs on wired and all the existing desktop labs will stay on wired until they are phased out except one. As students will be bringing their own devices and teachers will be using laptops, their argument is spending money on cables is a waste.
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I can't agree less but the I have been told that trend amongst other schools is wireless and to compete with them we have to do it as well. It gives teachers and students mobility making them more productive. All I can do is wait and see.
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We will get the cabling done on the spot. Well, that is what their strategy is.
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Have had a meeting and while they agreed on most of other things, not on the network ports. They said as we are going all wireless from next year we won't need the cables at all so why waste money on something we are not going to use. I tried to explain but ...........So hopefully half a dozen will suffice us and I won't have to deal with getting it done again.
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Thanks everyone for the input. I have made a list of these and sent them to the principal and the Business Manager. They had allowed for fourth of what is suggested here. Now the real challenge is how do I convince them to spend money on something which is not needed on day one but will likely be used in future.
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It is the time we refurbish one of the older buildings as we have received the grant after waiting for few years. The leadership is in the process of finalising the design of the rooms and the furniture and I have been asked for my input in regards to the IT networking, cabling and equipment etc. There are mainly five classrooms which need to be taken care of but this is the first time I have been involved in such a project so I don't have much experience doing it. I understand it's not very demanding but would like not to miss anything and make sure I future proof everything. So what would you IT guys suggest in terms of: How many ethernet ports and where they should be? What type of ethernet cable should I use (Cat 6/7 etc.)? What type of projectors should I buy? I am in the process of upgrading the wireless so that is already covered. Anything else I should consider?
