Alis_Klar Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 What do people think of windows to go? Up until now the BYOD response was running a thin client on the device but now on any Windows 7 certified PC you can boot into a school provisioned and administered Windows 8 instance from USB stick. This feature is only available on Windows 8 Enterprise so enabling BitLocker is an option too. This will only work on high end usb sticks which are certified for use with win8 to go (See Windows To Go - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) but compare this to the cost of issueing laptops and it starts to look an attractive alternative. This is good for data protection as the Windows to Go environment does not give access to local storage on the hardware you booted from and does not allow file transfer locally (not sure about other usb sticks but presumably this could be dealt with by policies as with school provisioned laptops)
LeMarchand Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Haven't played with this yet, though I intend to. For some reason when I've mentioned it to staff and pointed out that this would be a great way for them to have a dedicated machine in their class and then just a stick they could take home to work on their own computers they were horrified...
sted Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 the high end sticks thing i havnt found i tried it with the 1st stick i could find that was big enough and it worked (this was pre release win8 so rtm may be different)
Theblacksheep Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 This will only work on high end usb sticks which are certified for use with win8 to go (See Windows To Go - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) but compare this to the cost of issueing laptops and it starts to look an attractive alternative. See this thread for getting it working on normal USB sticks http://www.edugeek.net/forums/windows-8/99093-windows-go-info-creating-windows-go-removable-usb-drive.html
Arthur Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 The only disappointing thing about Windows To Go is the licensing... There are licensing requirements for Windows To Go; it is not just as simple as getting a copy of Windows 8 Enterprise and Bob’s your uncle. Here are the licensing requirements: http://i.imgur.com/PFTRU.png The mentioned CSL is a new companion subscription license. A companion device is a device such as a Windows 8 tablet that is the user’s secondary device, and where the PC is the primary device.
Alis_Klar Posted October 24, 2012 Author Posted October 24, 2012 What if there is no PC's with Windows 8 permanently installed (so were not cloning an instance)? Bloody MS licensing confusion monster strikes again!
SYNACK Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 I think that W2G could be massively handy, its just a case of how affordable the hardware and licencing turns out to be. It might sort out the teachers who 'can't bring their laptop every day because it is too heavy' this in spite of bringing many kgs of handbag each day.
CyberNerd Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Just like bootable USB Linux, which has been around since as long as I can remember USB being around. Nice of MS to have caught up on that one. Apparently they read ISO9660 too!
SYNACK Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Just like bootable USB Linux, which has been around since as long as I can remember USB being around. Nice of MS to have caught up on that one. Apparently they read ISO9660 too! Exactly, but useful I mean too the large amount of those that use MS stuff and formats every day
CyberNerd Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 it is nice to see them drag up some old technology to keep up. MS are so far behind the curve now I wonder why anyone bothers with them. I suppose the answer is in the sales figures, everyone is moving to android and apple.
SYNACK Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 it is nice to see them drag up some old technology to keep up. MS are so far behind the curve now I wonder why anyone bothers with them. I suppose the answer is in the sales figures, everyone is moving to android and apple. True, it's been doable with third party tools, ubcd4win (xp era) and in deployment WinPE for ages, they are only just turning it into a product now. They are not loosing everyone, just more than they used to. The curve is also relative, they are just rehashing most stuff from their own history. They were doing web video and mobile OSs a decade before android an the iPoo existed, they were just too far ahead of the curve at that stage. They need to learn to be a chunk more 'in the moment' instead of two decades in the future or five years behind (experience and userbase wise) in certain fields.
Theblacksheep Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 I suppose the answer is in the sales figures, everyone is moving to android and apple. Android has 5% of the total market, iwhatever has 20% and about 70% various windows platforms. The sales figures you hint at mask what is really going on, most androids are phones, most apples are phones.... areas where MS have had no penetration. So people bother because they still dominate the market, 'everyone' is not moving to android and apple.
CyberNerd Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Android has 5% of the total market, iwhatever has 20% and about 70% various windows platforms. A smartphone is a computer in pretty much every definition you could cite. Once Microsoft had a domination here and now they don't. The amount of smartphones must easily eclipse the amount of desktop computers nowadays - in a class of 30 that I was in today, only about 4 kids were not connected to the wi-fi using their phones to search for sites in French. Any using windows phone? No. Why? there are no apps. Exactly the same reason people use Windows over Apple and Linux in the past - because it had apps. Now with RT entering the market watch the dominance decline.
SYNACK Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 A smartphone is a computer in pretty much every definition you could cite. Once Microsoft had a domination here and now they don't. The amount of smartphones must easily eclipse the amount of desktop computers nowadays - in a class of 30 that I was in today, only about 4 kids were not connected to the wi-fi using their phones to search for sites in French. Any using windows phone? No. Why? there are no apps. Exactly the same reason people use Windows over Apple and Linux in the past - because it had apps. Now with RT entering the market watch the dominance decline. Funny, we don't have that level of affluence here or at least affordability. On the smartphone issue about I know five people not including myself with them who are happy enough with them, two were android users
Theblacksheep Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) A smartphone is a computer in pretty much every definition you could cite. Once Microsoft had a domination here and now they don't. The amount of smartphones must easily eclipse the amount of desktop computers nowadays - in a class of 30 that I was in today, only about 4 kids were not connected to the wi-fi using their phones to search for sites in French. Any using windows phone? No. Why? there are no apps. Exactly the same reason people use Windows over Apple and Linux in the past - because it had apps. Now with RT entering the market watch the dominance decline. Almost every definition, except the most important one: Can you type a word document up on it without throwing it against the wall. Phones completely fail in this respect. I quite like my SG2, but anything other than a search is painful, my ipad 2 is useless, the transformer I had for a few months could do it just about, but os/software still wasn't quite there.... Comes down to the tools for the job again. Anyway WTG = handy addition. Edited October 24, 2012 by Theblacksheep
CyberNerd Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Funny, we don't have that level of affluence here or at least affordability. On the smartphone issue about I know five people not including myself with them who are happy enough with them, two were android users I'm sure things in the former colonies will catch up with the rest of the modern world in time Almost every definition, except the most important one: Can you type a word document up on it without throwing it against the wall. Well no, we don't use Word because you can't type up a Word document on one - and the basis of our ICT strategy is to make learning resources available to all not just those that can afford Word (and the equipment to run it). Then again, IT isn't all about typing essays up on word processors. Anyway, yes WTG is a nice edition I just think its getting a bit late in the day for MS to capitalize on this. They desperately need to pick up things in the mobile market I just don't think they are doing it the right way.
SYNACK Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) I'm sure things in the former colonies will catch up with the rest of the modern world in time Doubtful - Example, Windows 8 Phone is out in like 4 days and they are still selling Lumina 800 phones for $899 here. Edited October 25, 2012 by SYNACK
Destinova Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Android has 5% of the total market, iwhatever has 20% and about 70% various windows platforms. The sales figures you hint at mask what is really going on, most androids are phones, most apples are phones.... areas where MS have had no penetration. So people bother because they still dominate the market, 'everyone' is not moving to android and apple. OSX has outgrown the Windows market for 6 years straight, by the end of June 2012 the Mac outgrew the PC market by 700%, and the Mac is the #1 selling Desktop AND Notebook in the US. Where is MS dominating again?
Steve21 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 OSX has outgrown the Windows market for 6 years straight, by the end of June 2012 the Mac outgrew the PC market by 700%, and the Mac is the #1 selling Desktop AND Notebook in the US. Where is MS dominating again? Love to know where you picked those figures from... Pc has been out selling "macs" every year and still are. Acer alone sells more than all the macs. If you're counting iPhone and iPad that's different, but macs certainly aren't winning. Steve
Arthur Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 Where is MS dominating again? In the UK. ----------------------------------------------- Sales (Q2 2012) Market Share (%) ----------------------------------------------- HP 469,000 18.5 Dell 313,000 12.4 Acer 293,000 11.6 Toshiba 238,000 9.4 Apple 187,000 7.4 -----------------------------------------------
Steve21 Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 And US and worldwide. US PC shipments drop 6% as Apple posts 4% gain (scroll down for figures) Seems acer dropped recently, but apple aren't even in top 5 world sales, and only 3rd in individual companies in US (again this is desktop/laptops not mobile) Just because iPhone and iPads are selling well diesn't mean macs are as popular Steve
Theblacksheep Posted October 28, 2012 Posted October 28, 2012 OSX has outgrown the Windows market for 6 years straight, by the end of June 2012 the Mac outgrew the PC market by 700%, and the Mac is the #1 selling Desktop AND Notebook in the US. Where is MS dominating again? PCs still outsells Macs 15-1 Apple have improved, Apple often sell for more, they sell both hardware bundled with software but they don't have the market share. So to answer your question, MS is dominating world wide.
Destinova Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 Apple just posted the numbers in their 10/23 event. The iMac is the #1 selling desktop and the Macbook Pro is the #1 selling notebook.
Destinova Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 "Apple also updated their MacBook Pro with a new 13″ MacBook Pro with Retina Display and a refreshed iMac. Apple bragged about sales of their Macs because they’ve outgrown PCs by over 7 times in the last six straight years, year over year. They’re consistently rated as the number one company in customers satisfaction and reliability. Apple also sells the #1 desktop and notebook in the United States. The iPad dominates other computer makers devices. Cook wowed attendees announcing that Apple sold over 100 Million iPads in their first two and a half years. Apple sold more iPads in Q2 2012 than any other computer maker sold PCs. The iPad grabs 90 percent of the mobile tablet traffic. Cook said that 94 percent of all fortune 500 companies are testing the iPad." Apple Boasts iPad, iPhone and Mac Sales Numbers at iPad Mini Event
ZeroHour Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 This thread has massively derailed from the topic of Windows 8 To Go. BOT please.
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