synaesthesia Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 No, that's part of the machine itself, as it's not controllable by the virtual bios I'd surmise it's not possible. I never looked into that (or any other boot device restriction) because I didn't think it was worth it. If they want to fart about and cause delay that's a classroom control issue. (plus we're lucky in that the kids doing computer science or whatever it's called actually seem to want to do it!) 1
fiza Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 No, that's part of the machine itself, as it's not controllable by the virtual bios I'd surmise it's not possible. I never looked into that (or any other boot device restriction) because I didn't think it was worth it. If they want to fart about and cause delay that's a classroom control issue. (plus we're lucky in that the kids doing computer science or whatever it's called actually seem to want to do it!) Suppose you're right. Was just trying to make it as clean as possible.
synaesthesia Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Aye, the less they can break the better, hence the removal of any possible menus and what not from Virtual Box Quick google around though, have you tried this? (not been on site, unable to test) If it's doable via UI, it's doable by batch or possibly an edit of the vbox file.
Arthur Posted May 15, 2014 Posted May 15, 2014 Any ideas how to remove the "F12 to select boot device" option when virtualbox is starting up? If it's doable via UI, it's doable by batch or possibly an edit of the vbox file. VBoxManage modifyvm [color="#FF0000"]VMNAME[/color] --biosbootmenu disabled No more F12! 4
fiza Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 I like the idea of sandboxing all the coding stuff within a VM so wondered if anyone who is experimenting with Virtualbox knows whether Kodu will work within the VM you create?
synaesthesia Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Kodu isn't really a threat to the network so we run outside. It's quite intensive on graphics too so I don't particularly recommend doing it. 1
MikeGilbert Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 I like the idea of sandboxing all the coding stuff within a VM so wondered if anyone who is experimenting with Virtualbox knows whether Kodu will work within the VM you create? As long as the OS runs on the VM, any program that runs under that OS will run in the VM. Within reason. You can set up an Acorn RiscPC and run BBC BASIC, or whatever, never mind any of these fancy modern things. I'll get me zimmer frame... 1
synaesthesia Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Kodu's a bit different though. It's 3d intensive, and 3D passthrough only vaguely works on some of the workstation level hypervisors like VBox. It's little more than a game making environment.
MikeGilbert Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Kodu's a bit different though. It's 3d intensive, and 3D passthrough only vaguely works on some of the workstation level hypervisors like VBox. It's little more than a game making environment. So glad I put that caveat...
howartp Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I've gone down a different route which is pretty bulletproof (has to be, mandatory profiles). Shortcut to run it runs a batch file containing the following: "C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox\vboxmanage.exe" setextradata global GUI/SuppressMessages ... Hi, Just wondering how you found all those setextradata parameters out? I've read the manual online and in Help, but I can't find anywhere that it tells you each of the parameters you can use? Google isn't giving me much either, other than a few examples. Peter
howartp Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) Hi, Just wondering how you found all those setextradata parameters out? I've read the manual online and in Help, but I can't find anywhere that it tells you each of the parameters you can use? Google isn't giving me much either, other than a few examples. Peter D'oh, no sooner do I post this than I find the answer. Chapter9.Advanced topics It's chapter 9.19. Locking down the VirtualBox manager GUI that contains the settings, not chapter 8.26. VBoxManage getextradata/setextradata. Peter [Edit: It also helps if I refresh this thread after I've posted, in order to see your response, before I re-post.... ] Edited June 9, 2014 by howartp
fiza Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Quick question to those who have successfully created a Vbox image. How are you deploying it? Are you building it into your current windows image and deploying via MDT/WDS? We are working from a virtual image (to enable rollback etc) of windows 7. If I try to install vbox inside that I am guessing it wont work?
synaesthesia Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Ours is manually copied (a bit lazy!). Couldn't seem to get a deployable package to work. Virtual Box is MSI'd and deployed easily but the image (which for us was 9GB, just changed to 15GB after having installed Visual Studio 2013) is manual. May script it but for the sake of 60 PC's it doesn't take long to copy thanks to impero & mimic scripts
fiza Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 @synaesthesia @zag - I was hoping you weren't going to say that!! We need it installed in 5 IT Suites so thats 125 machines.
SYNACK Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Kodu's a bit different though. It's 3d intensive, and 3D passthrough only vaguely works on some of the workstation level hypervisors like VBox. It's little more than a game making environment. @synaesthesia have you tried kodu with hyperv and remotefx, just wondering if I can pull it off in Multipoint 2012. If it does work like that with vdi diffe'd drives and memory dedupe it should be easy enough to do with a properly speced server or with individual stations with Windows 8 and hyperv.
synaesthesia Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 No, we don't hyperV here, and don't have the server grunt to try it (hence the local virtualbox sessions). Can't see why that wouldn't work though.
zag Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 @synaesthesia @zag - I was hoping you weren't going to say that!! We need it installed in 5 IT Suites so thats 125 machines. You could easily batch script the copy copy csimage.VDI \\cs01\c$\VM copy csimage.VDI \\cs02\c$\VM ect..
Jasbo Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I'm sure we do that, copy the image with vm in it then Push a package with the settings/shortcut. Will ask the guy that did it. 1
fiza Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 I'm sure we do that, copy the image with vm in it then Push a package with the settings/shortcut. Will ask the guy that did it. That would be appreciated
fiza Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I'm sure we do that, copy the image with vm in it then Push a package with the settings/shortcut. Will ask the guy that did it. @Jasbo Did you find out? - - - Updated - - - I'm sure we do that, copy the image with vm in it then Push a package with the settings/shortcut. Will ask the guy that did it. @Jasbo Did you find out?
Boredguy Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 We use a Robocopy script to send out our updated VM images to workstations... but then again we do deploy packages out using WPKG, so we just increase the package version number and then on next boot up the workstation triggers the script and away it goes.
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