Blue_Cookeh Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 Hey, We're looking at moving to MS EndPoint security (trying to get away from McAfee ) but I'm pretty confused as to what we actually need. Basically I'm looking to license our Server and Workstation OSs (we don't need any Exchange AV etc.) but from looking at the Microsoft site it seems we'd need to look into System Center Configuration Manager and such or am I getting the wrong impression? Has anyone had any experiences with these and know more about licensing it? I'm not looking for any fancy centralised management (although would be a bonus if it was cheap enough I suppose). Thanks
sukh Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi To use the new MSFT Endpoint security, you will need SCCM/SCOM. This is for the central management and reporting of your clients. You can deploy the client as a standalong, however this will be unmanaged. For your set-up, you will most probably need SCCM. It depends if you want to manage this yourself or not. You can always use In-tune. Regards Sukh 1
Blue_Cookeh Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 So am I right in thinking I'd be looking at licensing the following to use ForeFront? EndPoint Client EndPoint Server SCCM SQL Server
jc1875 Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) So am I right in thinking I'd be looking at licensing the following to use ForeFront? EndPoint Client EndPoint Server SCCM SQL Server Yes. the most expensive part of the deal will probably be sql server. (you'll need SQL server reporting services for the reports. these include graphs which component isn't included in sqlexpress) Edited March 8, 2011 by jc1875
sukh Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Hi Yes. If you've already got SQL Server deployed, depending on the licensing used, you may be able ti use another instance. If you're in the education sector, what is your current licensing programme that you're on? If you're going to renew, what do you plan to use EES? If so, get some quotes for Endpoint solution and I'll may be able to help you here. Also, consider using Windows Intune, unless you want to manage in-house. Thanks Sukh
zag Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 I asked this question to the Microsoft system center guy at the Edugeek conference. Its ridiculous needing all that software for simple anti virus management! He simply said that's the way it works and it was a common question
john Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 I asked this question to the Microsoft system center guy at the Edugeek conference. Its ridiculous needing all that software for simple anti virus management! He simply said that's the way it works and it was a common question Glad you raised that as I forgot, the last version was bad enough needing MOM and SQL..... Took me abotu a day to get the back end all setup and working, well 99% working anyway, then a few weeks later the other actually launched and itw as oh right now you need the full SCCM etc! Queue me going grrrr
sukh Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Hi You can always use Windows Intune? Saying that, even if you need SCCM, it doesn't cost that much under EES. Have you had quotes? Regards Sukh
john Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Hi You can always use Windows Intune? Saying that, even if you need SCCM, it doesn't cost that much under EES. Have you had quotes? Regards Sukh Cost isn't an issue as its peanuts for the SCCM suite, its the fact its a monster of a program, which yes I do wish to look at in the future, however I just need an AV program to keep the bugs away and yet you can spend a day configuring it to do multiple other things before you can just use any simple AV. So will spend another day re-setting up SCCM and all its service accounts, tweaks,patches to get it up to date etc all to deploy AV..... Microsoft AV taking a leaf out of the Sophos book of deployment and management, at least it doesn't need 2GB of ram in the PC to actually work and be usable!
sukh Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Hi John SCCM is a monster, as you say there are many benefits in addition to the endpoint security which all can benefit from. You will also benefit from learning a new product,keep your mind active. What's happened to the existing AV on the desktops? Why can't you continue to use until you sort out SCCM? For a first time setup it can take some time but it's a one-off with benefits worth doing for. If not, then you can always go for Intune, which will be under EES too and you don't need SCCM. Regards Sukh
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