vikpaw Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 I take it you mean the SIMS share? : No, but a lot of people will just do it that way. Also need control of local C drive folders, sims, windows/temp . . . One way to solve is to run simsperm.bat , others assign the permissions via group policy. 1
Little-Miss Posted January 24, 2011 Author Posted January 24, 2011 Is it immature that i laugh at that everytime?
Little-Miss Posted January 24, 2011 Author Posted January 24, 2011 Right, im having a bit of a moment. So SIMSPERM.BAT *snigger* gives certain access rights to the user. So if i was to run S:\SIMS\Setups\simsperm.bat domain\MIS it'll work for everyone that is part of the MIS group? Or do i have to to if for every member of staff who may take a register on this machine?
vikpaw Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 i believe you can do it for the whole group, and it works, however it needs doing on each PC. try it on one to be sure it's working, as i said, i've never used it. 1
vikpaw Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Is it immature that i laugh at that everytime? To be honest, yes, it's very immature, no right minded IT Technician would *snigger* (Joey from friends style) at such a useful tool. I take my job very seriously http://www.edugeek.net/forums/mis-systems/58010-sims-sperm-bath.html
Gatt Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 @Little-Miss - I found it easier to ignore SIMSPERM.BAT all together All I did was create a GPO that gave full control of the C:\Program files\SIMS folder to members of DOMAIN\MIS-Users group.. This is technically all that SIMSPERM.BAT does anyway.. As for share/NTFS permissions on th S: Drive I did: Share - Everyone = Read Only NTFS - MIS-Users = Full Control 1
vikpaw Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 This is taken from the KB mentioned in my sperm bath link above: SIMSPerm.bat needs to be run on every workstation. Who Can Run SIMSPerm.bat? Only Local Administrators can run SIMSPerm.bat. What Will Happen if I Do Not Run SIMSPerm.bat? Running SIMSPerm.bat is the easiest way and the recommended way of achieving the appropriate level of access rights in order to use SIMS .net modules. If you do not run SIMSPerm.bat, you will have to ensure that every user has been granted system administrator access rights before they can run upgrades to SIMS .net. In Addition to running SIMSPerm.bat, users on the workstation will require full control of the following locations: Local Settings\Temp Windows\Temp My Documents Windows\SIMS.ini SIMS .net folder (usually located in C:\Program Files\SIMS\) S:\SIMS (where S:\ is the mapped folder) The temp and other folders are required when it links in to office and assessment does jazzy stuff, plus other processes no doubt. I'm still trying to fix an issue with our profiles on windows 7, having the app data redirected appears to cause a few errors.
Little-Miss Posted January 24, 2011 Author Posted January 24, 2011 Eugh, this is turning into a PITA!
Gatt Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Hmm.. I never had to set properties on the Temp Dir, and users should already have enough permissions on their My Docs / Home Folders anyway I just did a GPO for the \Program Files\SIMS\ and the \WINDOWS\Sims.ini
vikpaw Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Eugh, this is turning into a PITA! Welcome to my world. Us SIMS managers like to think of it as a royal PITA.
Little-Miss Posted January 24, 2011 Author Posted January 24, 2011 Eugh! All i wanna do i install it on 21 machines without all this faffing with permissions! So not only do i need to run that silly named bat but i also have to change permissions manually? Never done a GPO to change permissions before :S
vikpaw Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Just make them local admins on the machine and tell them not to break anything!
Little-Miss Posted January 24, 2011 Author Posted January 24, 2011 Has anyone got a step by step on how to do this on a vanilla 2k3 network and XP clients, im getting fed up now.... Stupid thing is still taking ages to load and when you look at the installation log it has an entry each time for the server installation.
vikpaw Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Are you sure you're running as administrator? it shouldn't need to keep installing, it implies the changes are not saving to the right file / places so it keeps thinking it needs to update something. How do you do the install on the admin side? Who does it? It should be the same process, the only difference would be any permissions you've got set on the curriculum side that may be different, and possible dns/network traffic issues. We've pretty much got the step by step in this thread, it's just troubleshooting now.
Little-Miss Posted January 25, 2011 Author Posted January 25, 2011 Link2ICT does all the admin side of things. I'm logging on to the workstation as administrator and installing it. Making sure S:\ is mapped before i try running SIMS.
Little-Miss Posted January 25, 2011 Author Posted January 25, 2011 lol! What uber confusing is out of the two workstations im testing this on, one works perfectly but i dont think i did anything different....argh!
vikpaw Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 lol! What uber confusing is out of the two workstations im testing this on, one works perfectly but i dont think i did anything different....argh! Are they identical spec' + installations? You probably don't want to hear this, but often worth trying the whole lot again. Maybe this time, sort the permissions on the non-sims workstation. then go through and do the install. If you want to do a reinstall. You need to remove simsinfrastructure from control panel, and rename / delete the local folders on the C drive. Then re-run simsinst.exe 1
Little-Miss Posted January 25, 2011 Author Posted January 25, 2011 Exactly the same spec. Yeah ive just started to remove it from the dodgy workstation.
vikpaw Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Worth checking performance of dodgy machine in other aspects i.e. network connectivity, server access, dns resolving, all these things can slow down the performance and wrongly give sims the blame.
Little-Miss Posted January 25, 2011 Author Posted January 25, 2011 Ooh, think i might have cracked it. When i load it on a normal teacher account it loads up ok. Is there anything i need to check to make sure its all ok? Or is the fact its running a good thing! lol
vikpaw Posted January 25, 2011 Posted January 25, 2011 Well done sweetie. I would do a search for student details. Open linked documents if there are reports there...? to make sure the link to document storage is working. Try to access the register, if that's available now, am/pm. )
Little-Miss Posted January 25, 2011 Author Posted January 25, 2011 Ok, i can search for registers Run reports which open Word, excel etc... Search students.... Woop! Ok, tips on locking down the S: to users.... lol
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