FN-GM Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) Hi, I thought I would make a post to see what party the Edugeekers will favour in the General Election. I thought it would be interesting. The poll is anonymous and nobody including myself can see who voted who. I have included the main parties there are too many to list them all. If you would like to comment, please do so. Z Edited April 7, 2010 by FN-GM
ICT_GUY Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 I am sorry but I cant see a difference between the parties. I have an intense dislike for Brown but will this be enough of an incentive to vote for the conservatives who I abhor just as much.? So its all about which party is less (not sure which PC word to insert here, perhaps Guano?)
RabbieBurns Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 SNP. Incidentaly, anyone know how do I register for a postal vote?
powdarrmonkey Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Incidentaly, anyone know how do I register for a postal vote? https://www.aboutmyvote.co.uk/register_to_vote/postal_vote_application.aspx?HasJavascriptEnabled=true 1
Robot Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) SNP. Incidentaly, anyone know how do I register for a postal vote? Voting by post - About my vote, produced by The Electoral Commission edit: argh tooo slow Edited April 7, 2010 by Robot slowcoach. 1
FN-GM Posted April 7, 2010 Author Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) SNP. Incidentaly, anyone know how do I register for a postal vote? About My Vote, produced by The Electoral Commission This is for Britsh living oversees: https://www.aboutmyvote.co.uk/register_to_vote/british_citizens_living_abroad/register_to_vote.aspx Maybe there should be an option of not voting & Spoling the paper. To late can't edit it now... Edited April 7, 2010 by FN-GM 1
torledo Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 honestly, how much of an idiot would you have to be to vote for five more years of Brown. Whether that's via a vote for labour or a vote that ensures libdems end up supporting a labour minority govt. Has the country learned nothing at all ?
broc Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) It's a tough call; To some people voting for Brown might be considered the least undesirable.... when faced with a choice of a Tory Govt led by men from Eton, or a hung Parliament where policy is dictated by minority parties flexing their muscles? Hung Parliaments benefit few & generally don't last. Edited April 7, 2010 by broc
skunk Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 If everyone actually voted LibDem then they wouldn't be a minority party and then the smarmy git and the incumbent fool would have no say in the running of the coutry.......one can only dream. 1
ICT_GUY Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Current government is a minority government since 70% of the population didn't vote for them.
torledo Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 It's a tough call; To some people voting for Brown might be considered the least undesirable.... when faced with a choice of a Tory Govt led by men from Eton, or a hung Parliament where policy is dictated by minority parties flexing their muscles? Hung Parliaments benefit few & generally don't last. i don't know where this idea of brown the 'least worst' comes from. Even though i'm aware that such a view is held by some.....by what is it based on ? What Osbourne studied at Oxbridge or what Brown has been doing for the last decade first as chancellor and then the ever sanctimonious PM ? sure, there's a fear over more privatisation with the tories. But i don't think even the tories expected a future tory govt. to run with the PFI and private sector outsourcing balls the way that we've seen.....let alone a labour govt.
waldronm2000 Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 There are no majority parties. No party has won a general election with a clear majority of the votes cast since (I think) 1906, and that was the Liberal Party. The electoral system guarantees government by the minority.
srochford Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 I don't think Brown is the best prime minister ever (not sure who was!) but there are many things which have happened while he was chancellor and prime minister that were better than when Thatcher and Major were in charge (and I'm sure some will find many which were worse). I intensely dislike the attitude which says "Brown rubbish" or "Cameron rubbish" partly because I don't want to reduce politics to the level of name calling (which sadly is what most of the tabloids and some of the party leaders are doing) and partly because I'd much rather find out what are the good things which party X claims they will do rather than the bad things party X says party Y will do. If you're at a football match I'd guess it's acceptable (required?) to support your team and slag off the opponents even if they are doing well. In politics I want rather more - the way my country is run is much more important than that. 1
waldronm2000 Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Oops, even that was a minority; it was the Conservatives in 1900!
torledo Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Current government is a minority government since 70% of the population didn't vote for them. what difference does that make ? 70% of the population probably did vote for one of the three neoliberal parties.....or do you believe in the fairy story that the libdems and saint vince are radically different to the other two and would be infintely more competent should they have a say in govt. ?
tech_guy Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Your poll needs a 'None' option - they're all scum-sucking bottom-feeders and none of them deserve any votes. Don't vote - teach the snout-in-trough leeching slimeball politicians a lesson in democracy.
leco Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 The poll is perhaps reflecting the ballot paper? There is no way in the current voting system that a true democracy can be franchised. (not even in Edugeek)
localzuk Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 what difference does that make ? 70% of the population probably did vote for one of the three neoliberal parties.....or do you believe in the fairy story that the libdems and saint vince are radically different to the other two and would be infintely more competent should they have a say in govt. ? You are missing the point when it comes to voting for 'someone else' - be that the Lib Dems, Greens, Monster Raving Looney Party etc... The only way we are ever going to get constitutional reform is by stopping voting for the 'big 2'. Force the hand of the government - whoever they are.
torledo Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 You are missing the point when it comes to voting for 'someone else' - be that the Lib Dems, Greens, Monster Raving Looney Party etc... The only way we are ever going to get constitutional reform is by stopping voting for the 'big 2'. Force the hand of the government - whoever they are. what we can expect for the next 5 years is based less on their being electoral reform and a more representative system, but more by what the international consensus. This to a large degree shapes our economic performance, the role of large corporations. the impact of globalization etc. We've seen that with financial crisis, and some of the similar impacts happening all over the world.....cheap credit, high house prices, cheap labour. Who we decide amongst ourselves to give more of a voice to i think is not going to have as large an impact in my view. Anyone we vote in needs to understand and work within this global environment....and to a degree follow the consensus amongst the developed countries similar to ourselves.
localzuk Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 what we can expect for the next 5 years is based less on their being electoral reform and a more representative system, but more by what the international consensus. This to a large degree shapes our economic performance, the role of large corporations. the impact of globalization etc. We've seen that with financial crisis, and some of the similar impacts happening all over the world.....cheap credit, high house prices, cheap labour. Who we decide amongst ourselves to give more of a voice to i think is not going to have as large an impact in my view. Anyone we vote in needs to understand and work within this global environment....and to a degree follow the consensus amongst the developed countries similar to ourselves. Yet another reason not to choose the Tories - a party which wants to back us out of existing treaties, and start afresh. Something that will *really* help our recession hit country...
duncane Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 I definitely won't be voting for the party that doubled the rate of income tax from 10p to 20p when I was on £12.5k a year. The scary thing about the Labour Party is that they genuinely believe their own spin - much like the American Republicans under George Bush.
teejay Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Yet another reason not to choose the Tories - a party which wants to back us out of existing treaties, and start afresh. Something that will *really* help our recession hit country... Would that be the treaty we were promised a referendum on in Labours last manifesto by any chance?
localzuk Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Would that be the treaty we were promised a referendum on in Labours last manifesto by any chance? Labour are useless also. They failed on many of their election manifesto pledges from 1997, and again each time they were re-elected. Another such example would be their pledge to hold a judicial review of animal testing. Something they simply ignored once they were in power. However much you dislike the way Labour ended up signing us up to the Lisbon treaty, this isn't a reason to vote the Tories in. Also, the promised referendum was for the 'Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe' IIRC. The Lisbon Treaty is nowhere near as far reaching as that treaty was, and as such a referendum wasn't really needed.
localzuk Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 I definitely won't be voting for the party that doubled the rate of income tax from 10p to 20p when I was on £12.5k a year. The scary thing about the Labour Party is that they genuinely believe their own spin - much like the American Republicans under George Bush. They did double that amount, but also increased the threshold, and reduced that tax level from 22% down to 20%. IIRC, it was also done with tweaks of the NI thresholds and amounts too, along with handing back a lump of money to each person for a year. Meaning, effectively, everyone below about 16k were better off. The ones that lost the most were those in the 16k - 22k band IIRC (putting me smack bang in the middle). How much were you actually better or worse off?
torledo Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 Yet another reason not to choose the Tories - a party which wants to back us out of existing treaties, and start afresh. Something that will *really* help our recession hit country... no. as i said, the main parties probably understand the need to work within international frameworks and system, for want of a better phrase. Some of these systems are just plain selly, like economic monetary union, but fortunately we've been able to stay out of that, although we still have to be aware of how that effects us as far as being trading partners with EMU countries. Remind me again, what the libdem position on the single currency was/is ?
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