jumpinjamez Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 Hello, i am getting a bit of pressure from managment to move some whiteboard installations . This involes moving the pole and everything. I have never even considered this as part of job as a network manager but my Predecessor did. Any information on the best way to handle this?
MkII Posted June 7, 2006 Posted June 7, 2006 Even (!) caretakers aren't allowed to do any work above hand height nowadays. There needs to be the obligatory asbestos check on any surface tampered with, and my favourite getout is: you're not the competant person in law to do the job. If you're not trained, you can't do it. Nevermind what that last sentance of your job description says!
bossman Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Yes i totally agree with Mark on this. just becuase it is classed as computer equipment it is not your job to install or re-install this type of equipment. get the people in who installed it in the first place, this will obviously be at a premium cost and will take time therefore having the desired result of management mybe changing their minds about moving them in the first place ok. good luck
jumpinjamez Posted June 8, 2006 Author Posted June 8, 2006 Thanks guys i thought this was the case i just needed a bit of back up information. Hey Mark do you have a officall link for the above head height information?
MkII Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 http://www.hse.gov.uk/falls/regulations.htm http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg401.pdf
MkII Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 735 [ http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050735.htm#2 ] 1: Interpretation "ladder" includes a fixed ladder and a stepladder 5: Competence Every employer shall ensure that no person engages in any activity, including organisation, planning and supervision, in relation to work at height or work equipment for use in such work unless he is competent to do so or, if being trained, is being supervised by a competent person.
Nij.UK Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 i have to agree with the general feeling in this thread to say i dont think it is the network managers job to have to move installations... espically things like whiteboards which many of us are not trainined to do
SpuffMonkey Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Yeah - my thought to myself is - who would be liable if this board/projector etc fell on a kid - they are heavy objects and could do some serious damage.
Andrew_C Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Problem here is that I'm better at putting things on the wall than the "professionals" that we get in. Nothing I've put up has ever fallen down unlike... Nor do I consider that a pair of PC speakers are acceptable as a classroom “sound systemâ€!
E1uSiV3 Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Problem here is that I'm better at putting things on the wall than the "professionals" that we get in. Nothing I've put up has ever fallen down unlike... Nor do I consider that a pair of PC speakers are acceptable as a classroom “sound systemâ€! Get them to send you on a training course and amend your contract (with payrise for the increase in responsibilities)
Andrew_C Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 A training course for putting screws into walls? That was part of my skill-set when taken on. More a "general A/V tech" than a Geek anyway...
russdev Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 As someone said you would be putting yourself in possable law suite if you moved and it and it fell of. If do it then get letter signed from head saying that schools accepts you are not trained to do this and they accept full legal and morel consquences from you doing the work. Russell
MkII Posted June 8, 2006 Posted June 8, 2006 Hmm - thinks... :: Fat Chance :: - lol I've done building work and plenny stuff like this at home, and with my dad on several houses, and I do a 1st class job [iMHO ] ..that's not the point - you need training in current regulations. You're putting yourself at serious risk of legal action if anything goes wrong. I've done loads of stuff around school in the past, and I realise the risk - If you want to do it - then it's up to you. You'd be foolish to tho'.
jumpinjamez Posted June 9, 2006 Author Posted June 9, 2006 Thanks all for all the info. Istood firm and said i am not doing it and would not ask my team to do it either . pissed my manager right off which was a bonus jumpinjamez
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