Hackers, Crackers and other wise little Slackers...

[tmcd35]

This is what makes british law such an interesting area! The fact is, until there are a few test cases to clarify the intent of the law it's open to argument. The great thing with our legal system is that ultimately it comes down to how to opposing lawyers, 12 individuals (possibly) and a judge interprets parliaments intent when the bill was passed.

 

Most laws are written in a language that means you and I can argue till the cows come home over opposing interpretations of any given Act.

 

But to answer your question...Yes! MicroSoft are guilty! If only because releasing Windows is a criminal act in itself

[plexer]

I missed the mention of BackTrack3 in the thread earlier but I just downloaded the iso of it yesterday after seeing some video of it and it's awesome.

 

If anyone you know runs wep which I hope is not the case get them to change it

 

Ben

[Theblacksheep]

If anyone you know runs wep which I hope is not the case get them to change it

 

Powerfull stuff.

 

At the Kent E-Safety conference (waste of time a money) at the Kent police Academy, the police were talking about security and I noticed their wireless was WEP!

[mrcrazy04]

With regard to alternative methods - Pete Wood from First Base Technologies is a pretty good speaker on Penetration Testing - the stories he can tell! Not sure how much he charges though.

First Base Technologies

I'd also look at getting someone from the police in - not sure if you'd find anybody with enough of a technical background to answer some questions or give a good talk on it - and somebody who wasn't too sure on what they were talking about could have a negative effect.

Forces are supposed to have an e-crime unit though.

[jamesb]

I missed the mention of BackTrack3 in the thread earlier but I just downloaded the iso of it yesterday after seeing some video of it and it's awesome.

 

If anyone you know runs wep which I hope is not the case get them to change it

 

Ben

 

If you really want to see it at its best, get one of the original EEE PCs with the seven inch screen, load it onto an SD card and boot. Get it set up however you want, then make the boot partition read-only. Absolutely beautiful to play with.Fifteen second boot, decent speeds, and all in a package that can fit in your coat pocket (mine anyway, you may have smaller coats).

[Aurora77]

If this can help... it can give him a future. It's the Certified Ethical Hacker program

 

EC-Council | CEH Certification Path

 

Probably the best approach is to focus them far away from the Dark Side

[ChrisH]

If this can help... it can give him a future. It's the Certified Ethical Hacker program

 

EC-Council | CEH Certification Path

 

Probably the best approach is to focus them far away from the Dark Side

 

I have been looking at this for a while. They would probably be alright for about 25% of the course content. After that it gets into dissasembly etc and thats enough to put most off. Best to steer then to a normal qualification first else they will end up with 50 gig plus of various Rainbow/Hash tables/wordlists on their hard drive like me

[PEO]

Got this problem with my 14 year old brother. He's been cought commiting fraud etc. Very good at php and scripting, but unfortunately he is to imature to use his knowledge sensebly.

 

I took his pc, xbox, ipod touch out of his room last night till I come up with a solution of been able to properly monitor him. My mam is at her whits end.

[mrcrazy04]

And I thought my 13 year old brother looking at porn was an issue!

 

Tell your brother about Gary McKinnon - and how he upset the US Government sufficiently for them to sentence him to 50 years in his absence, and the years of struggle he's gone through to try and avoid it or be tried in the UK.

Also - the story of Kevin Mitnick is worth looking at, and how gthe US government went after him for trivial things!

Our government aren't as bad or over-reactive, but with the internet, it's hard to know who you're crossing/upsetting.

And the likelihood of a fair trial with regard to complex computer cases is reasonably slim, as the judge and jury just don't get half of what's being talked about!

 

Also - he could use his skills to hack for companies, legally and be paid well - but if he has a criminal record, there's no chance they'll let him.

And if he wants to do ethical hacking, at some point security clearance could be useful, and they want to know about everything apart from parking fines (including spent convictions)!