Intel ARC B580 - Anyone got one yet or about to buy one?

[Dos_Box]

I've been soldiering on with my Radeon RX 580 8GB for some years now whilst eyeing up the GPU market suspiciously, and since lockdown and the stupid levels of price gouging that went on, and, TBH, never seemed to recover as manufacturers seem to have their cards still priced at a level just beyond what people would find accepable. Even the used market is not one that I'd be happy buying from given the higer prices of much older cards.

But since the Intel ARC B580 was released the other week, along with the very positive reviews it has racked up, I'm giving it serious consideration, especially with a circa £250 price tag for a 12GB card and may just jump in.

This may all depend on the pricing and performance of AMD and Nvidia's new cards which are due along in the next few months and with Intel having a great price-point, it may well be that the two major players will be forced to drop the price of some of their models.

Let's hope so!

Anyway, if any of you out there have already got your hands on a Intel B580, then please let em know as I'd be happy to hear about it's use and performance in the real world

[psydii]

No, but a couple of months ago I caved and jumped up from a 590 to a 7700xt. When I saw the news about the B580, I was momentarily sad (I didn't really need the perf of the 7700xt but wanted the RAM) until I heard that pricing for the B580 in emea is not in fact on par with the 4060RTX but instead aligned with the 7700xt! Which makes it a daft purchase in the UK for now.

[Dos_Box]

No, but a couple of months ago I caved and jumped up from a 590 to a 7700xt. When I saw the news about the B580, I was momentarily sad (I didn't really need the perf of the 7700xt but wanted the RAM) until I heard that pricing for the B580 in emea is not in fact on par with the 4060RTX but instead aligned with the 7700xt! Which makes it a daft purchase in the UK for now.

 

You can get the B580 for £259.99 currently in the UK. The US prices are without tax added remember, but usually you can do a rough 1-to-1 conversion for UK pricing once you add on purchase tax in the US.

It's nice to have some competion back in the market again, and Intel really needs the boost atm!

[3s-gtech]

This is very welcome, if only to boost competition. The big two in the GPU space have been rather anti-competitive for the last five years.

[PaddyNewman]

Didn't notice they were that cheap, I've grabbed the TITAN OC from AWD, will swap out my card when it arrives. Always worth having a spare card for emergencies!

[psydii]

You can get the B580 for £259.99 currently in the UK. The US prices are without tax added remember, but usually you can do a rough 1-to-1 conversion for UK pricing once you add on purchase tax in the US.

It's nice to have some competion back in the market again, and Intel really needs the boost atm!

 

I’m not sure I wanted to learn

that lol.

 

Definitely agree a good card at a good price has been long overdue.

[synaesthesia]

Been looking at this but decided against it - my 3060 still holds up surprisingly well. My big concern is if Arc will be a thing in the near future - Intel are cutting their losses a lot recently and you have to wonder if Arc will be another thing consigned to mobile chipsets. I hope not as frankly we need the competition and the 580 does seem damned good for the price and what it's capable of.

Be interesting to see what the next AMD and NV cards are and in particular their price points!

[Dos_Box]

Been looking at this but decided against it - my 3060 still holds up surprisingly well. My big concern is if Arc will be a thing in the near future - Intel are cutting their losses a lot recently and you have to wonder if Arc will be another thing consigned to mobile chipsets. I hope not as frankly we need the competition and the 580 does seem damned good for the price and what it's capable of.

Be interesting to see what the next AMD and NV cards are and in particular their price points!

 

Apparently they are to announce at CES, but with them just releasing the higher tier models first, it will allow Intel to gain quite a foothold I think.

For those of us that do need a GPU for casual gaming and productivity the B580 will be an utter godsend at that price level.

[PotNoodleTech]

Been eying them up but still running one rig on a 3060 12GB which I paid 180 for and the other on a 3070 FE 8GB which i paid about 250 for and given the B580 is not more perfromant than those and really not any cheraper - it's not an upgrade.

 

I avoided the 4060/4070 as really they don't offer that much more and at great cost.

 

Dont get me wrong it's good to have more competition in the market but it actually needs to be better than the competition or singificantly undercut the price.

 

As it stands the 3070 is best bang for the buck if 1080p or 1440p even with only 8GB

Edited December 17, 2024 by PotNoodleTech

[Dos_Box]

Been eying them up but still running one rig on a 3060 12GB which I paid 180 for and the other on a 3070 FE 8GB which i paid about 250 for and given the B580 is not much more perfromant than those and really not any cheraper - it's not an upgrade.

 

I avoided the 4060/4070 as really they don't offer that much more and at great cost.

 

Dont get me wrong it's good to have more competition in the market but it actually needs to be better than the competition or singificantly undercut the price.

 

I had been eyeing up a used 3060 (got one for my son the other year), but having looked at a lot of reviews, it certainly gives the 4060 a run for it's money with more RAM, higher clock speeds and memory bus for slightly less money, I think I can see myself grabbing one after Xmas.

[PotNoodleTech]

I had been eyeing up a used 3060 (got one for my son the other year), but having looked at a lot of reviews, it certainly gives the 4060 a run for it's money with more RAM, higher clock speeds and memory bus for slightly less money, I think I can see myself grabbing one after Xmas.

 

Let me know what you decide, I've just picked up a 3090 for the 3070 and I will likely try and pick up anothher 3090 or 3080 for the other rig so should have both the 3070 and 3060 spare soon. 3060 is a 12 GB one so - nice.

[BOOT]

Tempting if the price is remotely affordable. Still using a GTX660. Yes. 660

[synaesthesia]

I've seen 3060's go for 150 recently (saw one go for 100 on Facebook but I was wary of that one!). Definitely a bargain to be had and still more than capable of running Cyberpunk with everything turned up at 1440.

[Dos_Box]

Tempting if the price is remotely affordable. Still using a GTX660. Yes. 660

 

What's it like to play Tetris with lag?

[3s-gtech]

My HD6950 would like a word.

[Dos_Box]

I see the scalpers are already out on Amazon with vendors trying to charge £350+

[PaddyNewman]

Mine has arrived this morning, I'll fit tonight, I imagine it wont stay in for long but will be good in the backup PC.

I've only got a handful of games to test with and its against a 4090 so it'll be nowhere close, but be good to see how high it can push and maintain 60fps!

[Dos_Box]

Mine has arrived this morning, I'll fit tonight, I imagine it wont stay in for long but will be good in the backup PC.

I've only got a handful of games to test with and its against a 4090 so it'll be nowhere close, but be good to see how high it can push and maintain 60fps!

 

It'll be interesting to see how it does out of reviewers lab environments and I look forward to hearing how it does

[mdrabble]

Not sure if anyone follow Linus Tech Tip, but they recently reviews the Intel GPU and gave it a very good reviews.

 

 

Not played done any PC gaming in years so I’m out of touch on these things. So not sure if good or not, but sounds promising.

Edited December 20, 2024 by mdrabble

[PaddyNewman]

It'll be interesting to see how it does out of reviewers lab environments and I look forward to hearing how it does

Spent yesterday because it was cold and wet, for the comparison its against my 4080 Palit to have it closer as a 4090 is just well out of scope and not really comparable, I don't have a 30 series anymore which would have been better!

All single player tests were done for 5 mins on the same save point, settings defaults to "high" - 1080p and 1440p, vsync off, no cap on frame rate where possible, or 144 used if no uncap was available. No XeSS/DLSS was on and RTX was disabled. Windows forced to allow games to handle 3D, rather than per application settings which I have currently to make it fair.

CPU is a 7800X3D.

FPS monitor - https://store.steampowered.com/app/966610/FPS_Monitor__hardware_ingame__desktop_overlays/

Games and results:

Cyberpunk 2077

 

Nvidia

1080p: 90ish fps when shooting, about 90-100fps when driving at high speeds.

1440p: Only minor drops, 80s for shooting and 90+ when driving.

 

Intel

1080p: Between 55 and 70 depending on action. Driving at fast speeds with motion blur on kept it in the high 60s. Full grenade explosions and gunfire dropped it down to the 40-45 region but realistically, 50-60fps is acceptable, it was higher on average but my save is mid gunfight!

1440p: This tanked it somewhat, average of around 30-40, highs of potentially 60 when driving with blur.

 

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Destiny 2

 

Nvidia

1080p: 260fps in orbit, tower was 100-120fps depending on loading area, 140-160fps in Javelin4 no real obvious change outside to inside.

1440p: 180fps in orbit, tower about 100 give or take 5 either side, 130fps in Jav4.

 

Intel

1080p: Orbit talking displayed 190fps, but in reality its showing nothing, Tower was about 70fps, crucible on Javelin4 seeing high 100 inside, 110 outside.

1440p: Orbit 160fps, Tower was around 60fps fluttering to 65 every now and then, crucible Jav4 was about 100 all around, no real dips.

 

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Grand Theft Auto 5

 

Nvidia

1080p: Single player about 110fps, big explosions and like are dropping it to 90s, multiplayer was about 100+ on high, ultra took it to mmid 90s.

1440p: Same as above minus about 15fps for each, not noticeable but the numbers say different! Ultra was a bit sketchy into the low 70s.

 

Intel

1080p: Single player about 85fps at best, dropping to medium and MSAA off it hit 90 when driving but any large action was ... oof. Multiplayer about the same however was purely as I drive a specific route every time and it was about 65-70fps on high. 75-80 on medium. Ultra is not.

1440p: As above but all down significantly, on high this runs like dirt, 45fps when driving and some severe dips when using rocket launchers on innocent civilians and cars. Seeing 40 online was a surprise. On medium it didn't change much, the resolution felt like it was taking too much.

 

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Red Dead Redemption 2

 

Nvidia

1080p: Not far off GTA5, if anything it was a few fps higher but wouldn't notice, about 115-125 when riding.

1440p: About 100fps all round.

 

Intel

1080p: About the same as GTA5 to be honest, but it was more stable around 60fps but nowhere near as much needed to render as its just tree tessellation and open skies. Highest was about 70fps but dramatically smoother than GTA5

1440p: Not as much of a dip, but again little to render compared, seeing a solid 50fps.

 

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Call of Duty

 

Nvidia

1080p: 160fps menu dipping to 120 when in game, lowest I saw was 90 but it was a random map, couldn't control that in multiplayer.

1440p: 150fps menu but around 90-100 in game.

 

Intel

1080p: It works fine for the Black Ops 6 multiplayer, its a little rough on high and you do get shafted on fps with all the warfare going on with grenades and it almost starts artifacting when the screen is overwhelmed. Still a comfy 60-70fps on high.

1440p: 1440p seems to be this cards weakness, it really screwed this one up, saw 55-60fps routinely but the second you get a screen full, it really tanks and the only game to close with a graphical error!

 

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Sea of Thieves

 

Nvidia

1080p: Unsure if server problems but I had about 60-80fps when sailing.

1440p: Same as above, so perhaps erroneous game choice!

 

Intel

1080p: Again, unsure whether its the servers at this point, but this was almost unplayable for the most part, its got fairly realistic seas and it was choppier than anything. Was seeing 35-40fps just sailing from Cutlass Cay direct north.

1440p: As above really, it was about 35-40.

 

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Hogwarts Legacy

 

Nvidia

1080p: 110 fps on the run to Hogsmeade, dueling is around 100fps.

1440p: 80 on a run, 80-85 when dueling.

 

Intel

1080p: 70fps running Hogwarts to Hogsmeade, dueling class in castle is about 70fps too.

1440p: About 45fps running between Hogwarts and Hogsmeade, dueling was about 40, dipped quite a lot when fast casting, but nothing below 35, playable for most.

 

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Helldivers 2

 

Nvidia

1080p: 160fps all round, close quarters is fine but obviously dips a little, only by 10 or so FPS.

1440p: Getting about 130fps planet side and dips to 100 when calling in close quarters nukes.

 

Intel

1080p: Between 60 and 80 depending on enemy density, do get a little low when you call in close quarters, but really it never hit less than 60 and remained playable.

1440p: 55-60fps on planet, 70fps in dropship, close quarters call ins are just a nuke to this card. Seeing drops to 20 and almost felt like tearing when you try to turn mid explosion. Only on 1440p though.

 

 

 

 

Thoughts - I would have one for that price if I was running a 16xx/10xx series Nvidia and even a 20xx series and it was aging badly.

If a 4070Ti/4080 is well out of reach or you don't really need the beefiest card as you play decently optimised games... this is a STEAL to play games at sensible FPS. I did not want to test at 4K as it seems like an absolute waste of time, not many people wanting to get a cheap card, then get a 4K 120Hz screen...

I'd love to have tested against a 6800/7700 card but the wife might get concerned for my health if I sit on the floor with PCs in parts even more than I do...

 

Worth noting some of my results seem to vary widely with other results and tests. I can only imagine that me turning off all the "aids" doesn't help. They are what I saw and I trust FPS monitor

Edited December 22, 2024 by PaddyNewman

[Dos_Box]

Just a bit of a thread necro, but I've been running my B580 for just over a month now and am very happy with it. I decided to go for the Acer Nitro B580. It's a bit of a budget option @£229, but more than does for me.
I mainly play older games and it really does make them sing, especially as they have been working very hard with the drivers (always nice to see) and they have just recently got rid of the overhead when using older CPU's (think Ryzen 2600 era).
So if you do need a GPU upgrade, but don't want to spend a fortune, I would definitely recommend you give the B580 a looking at.