jslate1980 Posted April 16, 2024 Posted April 16, 2024 Shame not all manufacturers have provided an oauth solution to their products yet. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/exchange-team-blog/exchange-online-to-retire-basic-auth-for-client-submission-smtp/ba-p/4114750
Roberto Posted April 16, 2024 Posted April 16, 2024 Hopefully now the end date is announced they will get moving. Any solution that relies upon basic auth in 2024 needs to get back in the sea.
Michael Posted April 17, 2024 Posted April 17, 2024 Just curious how this will work with printer/photocopier manufacturers who have 1990's web interfaces - there are quite a few out there!
robyholmes Posted April 17, 2024 Posted April 17, 2024 Just curious how this will work with printer/photocopier manufacturers who have 1990's web interfaces - there are quite a few out there!You can use direct send as long as you only need to send internally. No authentication required for that so shouldn't be affected by this if I understand it right.
Michael Posted April 17, 2024 Posted April 17, 2024 I'm not sure, what I'm unclear about (as quoted off Microsoft's website) SMTP Auth now supports OAuth, but most devices haven't been patched to support this. Only SMTP Auth with Basic Authentication, which I presume what 99% of Admins are implementing, even if you're using a software layer such as Papercut. I believe Papercut supports OAuth, but like I say, in smaller environments using the MFPs own 1990's interface I can only see this working after a firmware patch.
dmj Posted April 17, 2024 Posted April 17, 2024 It's super easy to put an MTA on the network for older devices to connect to and relay to exchange via oauth. This change shouldn't affect anyone.
Roberto Posted April 17, 2024 Posted April 17, 2024 It's super easy to put an MTA on the network for older devices to connect to and relay to exchange via oauth. This change shouldn't affect anyone. Raspberry Pi's time to shine. Again.
Michael Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 I think the suitable alternative will be a Microsoft High Volume account, which is currently in preview. This allows - - Emails to be sent internally to your tenancy - Supports third party applications - Uses Port 587 - Requires TLS So almost identical to what we're doing now, so I suspect Admins would just need to enroll existing O365 accounts as Microsoft High Volume. I believe we'll be able to specify 20 accounts per tenancy which is plenty. This is far more straight forward than OAuth2, such as Papercut's guidance which just made my head hurt.
Michael Posted April 19, 2024 Posted April 19, 2024 And uses smtp-hve.office365.com instead of smtp.office365.com I'm not entirely clear why or how this is any more secure than an existing account, given the parameters are pretty much identical.
Alis_Klar Posted August 12, 2024 Posted August 12, 2024 We are a new Tenant with "security defaults" enabled and this disabled all legacy SMTP auth including via HVE. Is there more granular setting somewhere in m365 as we still want to enforce MFA for most users. Account for scan to email from MFD can be exempt. Links Security Defaults https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/entra/fundamentals/security-defaults Basic Auth Retirement https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/exchange-team-blog/exchange-online-to-retire-basic-auth-for-client-submission-smtp/ba-p/4114750 HVE https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/Exchange/mail-flow-best-practices/high-volume-mails-m365
robintech Posted August 12, 2024 Posted August 12, 2024 You can enable it for individual mailboxes , not sure if this works with Security Defaults on though https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/clients-and-mobile-in-exchange-online/authenticated-client-smtp-submission
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