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Our Business manager needs to review some CCTV but says viewing on the actual NVR box + monitor is awkward and he'd prefer to use the Web UI from their computer like he used to... I didn't set this up, so I think the CCTV installers had a Chrome shortcut which has now somehow disappeared.

 

I asked him how they managed to do that as I said I always thought it need a 'LocalServiceComponents' plug-in installed by an administrator... Then I said that once the NVR's IP is set as a bookmark you'd need to log-in to the Web UI and they said that they just clicked the bookmark and it went straight in!

 

Anyway, to set this up again for them, I'd need to install the plug-in and than set the IP as a bookmark in Chrome which is no problem, but I can't see any 'remember me' options on the log-in page, so is there any other way they could have achieved that?

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I have personally found the Hikvision web UI to be horrendous - plugins required, and you can't play back more than 1x speed. You can't easily save or export clips.

 

After installing iVMS-4200, life is easier, but it does have some beefy system requirements. It killed my older desktop.

 

To answer your question they probably got Chrome to save the credentials as it probably detected it was a username/password combination.

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I have personally found the Hikvision web UI to be horrendous - plugins required, and you can't play back more than 1x speed. You can't easily save or export clips.

 

After installing iVMS-4200, life is easier, but it does have some beefy system requirements. It killed my older desktop.

 

Yes, I have iVMS installed on my machine, but there's no way I want the Head or BM poking around in there, too much for them to mess about with or click the wrong thing (also as you say it's too much for both of their systems).

 

To answer your question they probably got Chrome to save the credentials as it probably detected it was a username/password combination.

 

Yes, yes of course they did... :(

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Yes, I have iVMS installed on my machine, but there's no way I want the Head or BM poking around in there, too much for them to mess about with or click the wrong thing (also as you say it's too much for both of their systems.

 

You can set up users on iVMS and on the Hikvision server then limit access. Eventually we are going to have a dedicated CCTV viewing room with a desktop with iVMS on. We created user accounts with restricted actions, they can only access cameras based on user and can't access any of the system settings etc, basically turning it into a Viewer and Exporter.

 

Edit: if they log in again, it should offer to save the credentials (if they know them).

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HIK Vision's still a thing? I thought schools were being told to chuck it out (for ??? reasons)

 

Anyway, when I was using it, I preferred to use Internet Explorer with the HIK Vision supplied extension (yes, it's that long ago)

 

It was a bit clunky (IE didn't help in that respect) but eventually I found a way to be fairly efficient when using the interface.

 

We gave specific individuals access to specific cameras only at named stations. We also edited their profiles to say if they had live view only, playback, PTZ/zoom control, or video download access.

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Add forgotten PTZ/zoom. :(
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Ditto for IVMS - it's awful, but less awful than trying to get browser version to behave short of using IE Mode. Make them a user with limited access. We have a standalone desktop for CCTV purposes but getting IVMS put on certain machines.

Hikvision is absolutely fine (security-wise) when installed by someone competent and the cameras are head and shoulders over everything else remotely near their price range. Just a shame the software is poor :(

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We use the webUI for our Hikvision box. Ours doesn't seem to be conducive to Chrome offering to remember/autofill credentials, though. In fact, the password field doesn't allow pasting, which is obviously quite crap and not based in any recognised UX convention.

 

Not wanting to be sinophobic, but it's as though the things like password managers and estalished usability conventions that Western tech users have become accustomed to are largely absent in Chinese software development.

 

Oh and the plugin also adds itself in registry to auto launch every time a user signs into Windows, raising a UAC prompt that it doesn't actually need anyway. As I said... quite crap.

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Discussion seems to be less about the cameras or NVRs, and more about the (poor?) quality of Hik Vision's software.

 

While I was managing our CCTV setup, there was talk about using third party software for the interface. We didn't act on this option, but if a suitable supplier could be identified it might address (some) concerns expressed in replies here, maybe?

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My last school went down the bazooka for a fly approach with Avigilon. Far better, fully compatible, but I'm 100% certain you could do the same for less. Popularly mentioned is BlueIris although not sure how well that scales up to larger deployments.
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+1 for iVMS. Set up your local super user account & then create the user a account with operator level permissions, tweak as necessary.

 

I did try to use the web interface, would be great if it actually worked.. just so inconsistent

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Might be better using the mobile App - possibly on iPad

 

Ultimately the software was why I dumped hikvision and went back to UniFi.

I explored some open source CCTV software that was compatible - but ultimately decided a neat self contained unit was better for me then self hosted.

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