timbo343 Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 As we are only lite users of the MS products and have Office2019 installed, is there a way to install the SkypeMeetingsApp.msi to ALL USERS rather than just to the local user profile as our users on the domain cannot install MSIs so we are unable to take conference calls from those who are wanting to meet with out staff. We run mandatory profiles which doesnt help the situation either. It would seem it's not possible to do and i'm hoping someone can correct me *fingers crossed*
3s-gtech Posted April 28, 2020 Posted April 28, 2020 What Office license are you using? Pro Plus comes with SfB itself and you should be able to install it as part of the Office package. If you only have standard, the SfB install can interfere with the Office install. Basically - can you modify your Office installs to directly deploy SfB?
timbo343 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Posted April 28, 2020 We have installed SfB as part of the Office 2019 Pro collection however our staff would need to login with their Office365 account. This is something the MAT haven't officially got as they have been concentrating on GSuite only and maybe something i need to bring to their attention - I'm wondering if this would work for the latest version of Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/skype/lifbcibllhkdhoafpjfnlhfpfgnpldfl. Unofficially we still have our old tenant sat dormant and syncing from OnPrem AD in the background however asking users to use their old details is just going to confuse matters. I have managed to get the MSI to install without inputting any Office365 details. If the user opens IE11 and opens the meeting, the MSI will run and install however if they use Chrome, the MSI downloads but will not install so we are asking staff to use IE11. This is ok for a short period however i can see this becoming a pain later on. Apparently MS don't have a "all users" version of the MSI either yet people are crying out for it - so i've read on forums. 1
timbo343 Posted April 28, 2020 Author Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) Just an update, the Chrome plugin doesn't work either. IE11 installs SkypeMeetingApp.msi to the same place C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\SkypeForBusinessPlugin\16.2.0.511. The other way to do it would be to have the folder SkypeForBusinessPlugin folder somewhere on the C Drive and a script would be run (or manual intervention) to copy the folder to (C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Microsoft). It would appear the MSI is just extracting and copying the files from the MSI to the mentioned folder location. There is no actual "Install" happening. Edit, the last paragraph doesn't work. Edited April 28, 2020 by timbo343
Arthur Posted May 2, 2020 Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) is there a way to install the SkypeMeetingsApp.msi to ALL USERS rather than just to the local user profile as our users on the domain cannot install MSIs so we are unable to take conference calls from those who are wanting to meet with out staff. We run mandatory profiles which doesn't help the situation either. It would seem it's not possible to do and i'm hoping someone can correct me *fingers crossed* It's definitely possible. I had exactly the same issue yesterday when several of our staff had an online meeting with an LEA that required the dreadful Skype Meetings App. We don't install the Skype for Business app that's included with Microsoft Office. You can't use the ALLUSERS=1 parameter with SkypeMeetingsApp.msi so the solution I came up with was to create a transform file to change a few things in the MSI to force the app to install to the "Program Files (x86)" folder rather than local AppData. The MST is attached to this post and the MSI can be downloaded via the following link should you need it again: https://az801095.vo.msecnd.net/prod/LWA/plugins/windows/SkypeMeetingsApp.msi You will also need to create inbound domain and private Windows Firewall rules for pluginhost.exe (TCP and UDP). The path to which is now: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\SkypeForBusinessPlugin\16.2.0.511\pluginhost.exe Another thing worth mentioning is that if you whitelist Internet Explorer ActiveX controls through Group Policy you will need to add the CLSID below to your policy. Name: Skype for Business Web App Version Plug-in Publisher: Microsoft Corporation Type: ActiveX Control Architecture: 32-bit and 64-bit Version: 16.2.0.511 File date: 03 August 2019, 04:59 Date last accessed: 01 May 2020, 00:00 Class ID: [color="#FF0000"]{FE2EC208-BECF-4E83-8BF4-E35DBA4EB6A1}[/color] Use count: 1 Block count: 0 File: GatewayVersion-x64.exe Folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\SkypeForBusinessPlugin\16.2.0.511 Note. When testing my MST make sure you uninstall any existing per-user installs of the Skype Meetings App beforehand. The other way to do it would be to have the folder SkypeForBusinessPlugin folder somewhere on the C Drive and a script would be run (or manual intervention) to copy the folder to (C:\Users\%user%\AppData\Local\Microsoft). It would appear the MSI is just extracting and copying the files from the MSI to the mentioned folder location. There is no actual "Install" happening. There is an install happening. It's just not showing the "normal" interactive installer UI. The MSI creates quite a few registry keys so you can't just copy the folder unfortunately. Edit. I will post a new MST after a bit more testing. Edited May 2, 2020 by Arthur 2
Arthur Posted May 2, 2020 Posted May 2, 2020 Apparently MS don't have a "all users" version of the MSI either yet people are crying out for it - so i've read on forums. It's unlikely there will ever be an official all users MSI (or 100% web-based version) with Microsoft Teams superseding SfB. https://tomtalks.blog/2017/05/improved-skype-business-web-join-experience-skypemeetingsapp-msi 18/10/2017: We heard at Microsoft Ignite 2017 that WebRTC/plugin-less meeting join is coming to Microsoft Teams but unlikely to come to Skype for Business
timbo343 Posted May 2, 2020 Author Posted May 2, 2020 (edited) It's definitely possible. I had exactly the same issue yesterday when several of our staff had an online meeting with an LEA that required the dreadful Skype Meetings App. We don't install the Skype for Business app that's included with Microsoft Office. You can't use the ALLUSERS=1 parameter with SkypeMeetingsApp.msi so the solution I came up with was to create a transform file to change a few things in the MSI to force the app to install to the "Program Files (x86)" folder rather than local AppData. The MST is attached to this post and the MSI can be downloaded via the following link should you need it again: https://az801095.vo.msecnd.net/prod/LWA/plugins/windows/SkypeMeetingsApp.msi You will also need to create inbound domain and private Windows Firewall rules for pluginhost.exe (TCP and UDP). The path to which is now: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\SkypeForBusinessPlugin\16.2.0.511\pluginhost.exe Another thing worth mentioning is that if you whitelist Internet Explorer ActiveX controls through Group Policy you will need to add the CLSID below to your policy. Name: Skype for Business Web App Version Plug-in Publisher: Microsoft Corporation Type: ActiveX Control Architecture: 32-bit and 64-bit Version: 16.2.0.511 File date: 03 August 2019, 04:59 Date last accessed: 01 May 2020, 00:00 Class ID: [color="#FF0000"]{FE2EC208-BECF-4E83-8BF4-E35DBA4EB6A1}[/color] Use count: 1 Block count: 0 File: GatewayVersion-x64.exe Folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\SkypeForBusinessPlugin\16.2.0.511 Note. When testing my MST make sure you uninstall any existing per-user installs of the Skype Meetings App beforehand. There is an install happening. It's just not showing the "normal" interactive installer UI. The MSI creates quite a few registry keys so you can't just copy the folder unfortunately. Saviour!!! Many thanks for this! I will try it out next week I realised there's more to the MSI than i thought as it would seem there are some DLLs that are being registered too. I will just amend / add to the existing firewall rules in Group Policy to reflect the new location. Edited May 2, 2020 by timbo343
Arthur Posted May 2, 2020 Posted May 2, 2020 I will try it out next week One other thing. When I tested the MSI/MST, it installed to "Program Files (x86)" successfully when the installer was run under an administrator account, but when done under the SYSTEM account it failed. I am currently trying to find out why. 1
timbo343 Posted May 6, 2020 Author Posted May 6, 2020 It's definitely possible. I had exactly the same issue yesterday when several of our staff had an online meeting with an LEA that required the dreadful Skype Meetings App. We don't install the Skype for Business app that's included with Microsoft Office. You can't use the ALLUSERS=1 parameter with SkypeMeetingsApp.msi so the solution I came up with was to create a transform file to change a few things in the MSI to force the app to install to the "Program Files (x86)" folder rather than local AppData. The MST is attached to this post and the MSI can be downloaded via the following link should you need it again: https://az801095.vo.msecnd.net/prod/LWA/plugins/windows/SkypeMeetingsApp.msi You will also need to create inbound domain and private Windows Firewall rules for pluginhost.exe (TCP and UDP). The path to which is now: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\SkypeForBusinessPlugin\16.2.0.511\pluginhost.exe Another thing worth mentioning is that if you whitelist Internet Explorer ActiveX controls through Group Policy you will need to add the CLSID below to your policy. Name: Skype for Business Web App Version Plug-in Publisher: Microsoft Corporation Type: ActiveX Control Architecture: 32-bit and 64-bit Version: 16.2.0.511 File date: 03 August 2019, 04:59 Date last accessed: 01 May 2020, 00:00 Class ID: [color="#FF0000"]{FE2EC208-BECF-4E83-8BF4-E35DBA4EB6A1}[/color] Use count: 1 Block count: 0 File: GatewayVersion-x64.exe Folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\SkypeForBusinessPlugin\16.2.0.511 Note. When testing my MST make sure you uninstall any existing per-user installs of the Skype Meetings App beforehand. There is an install happening. It's just not showing the "normal" interactive installer UI. The MSI creates quite a few registry keys so you can't just copy the folder unfortunately. Edit. I will post a new MST after a bit more testing. Any chance of a new MST file please? I'm starting to get a few more requests to join skype meetings.
Arthur Posted May 6, 2020 Posted May 6, 2020 I'm starting to get a few more requests to join skype meetings. I will send you a PM shortly. I had to use a different method in the end, but it's working well after testing it with some teachers earlier this week. 1
mrstrong Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 Hi, we use office 365 for teachers but have been "updated" to Teams (will eventually replace SfB July 2021?) so we can't start SfB meetings but can join them ok. Have tested it ok with teachers joining with the SfB in office 2016 and the web app (i.e. the msi install which we allow) But note for us in both cases the teachers still had to login with their office 365 credentials.
timbo343 Posted May 8, 2020 Author Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) @Arthur. Many thanks for this!! Spot On!! allows the app to be open from any browser too! We run mandatory profiles and block users from install MSIs Also we have now moved to GSuite from Office365. All these issues caused problems for us. It installs the components of SfB Meetings Apps to the Profram Files (x86)\microsoft folder so users don't have to install the MSI which is asked to be installed from a web browser. If you have SfB installed as part of your Office deployment, don't worry, i haven't found this to clash with the Office SfB install. Edited May 8, 2020 by timbo343
Arthur Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 Thanks for all your help testing @timbo343. 👍 If anyone else wants to download the PSADT script I created to install the Skype Meetings App for all users, it can be downloaded from here. 1
Arthur Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 in both cases the teachers still had to login with their Office 365 credentials. This was the main issue for my school. Everyone has a G Suite login, but not Office 365.
RebelBurr34 Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 I will send you a PM shortly. I had to use a different method in the end, but it's working well after testing it with some teachers earlier this week. Great.You did a good job.
robyholmes Posted September 15, 2020 Posted September 15, 2020 Sorry to bump this thread but I'm wondering if I can get an update from you @Arthur and @timbo343 on how your deploying Skype For Business Plugin to machines for all users. We're running in to the same problem, with AppLocker blocking it, standard users not able to install it and it install to the users account. I'd like to be able to install it for all users, even if it's just manual. I believe I need the MSI and MST (Could you PM me it?) then set the firewall rule up and we should be away. I think?
timbo343 Posted September 15, 2020 Author Posted September 15, 2020 Sorry to bump this thread but I'm wondering if I can get an update from you @Arthur and @timbo343 on how your deploying Skype For Business Plugin to machines for all users. We're running in to the same problem, with AppLocker blocking it, standard users not able to install it and it install to the users account. I'd like to be able to install it for all users, even if it's just manual. I believe I need the MSI and MST (Could you PM me it?) then set the firewall rule up and we should be away. I think? It's just a plugin that we install as Network administrator of the machine. I can send you the files if you like?
robyholmes Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 It's just a plugin that we install as Network administrator of the machine. I can send you the files if you like? The issue I'm having is I'm having to install it on my admin account, which then installs to the admin account AppData folder. So I'd like to be able to install it to Programs Files as suggested above. I believe @Arthur created a MST file for this judging by the information in the thread?
timbo343 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Posted September 16, 2020 The issue I'm having is I'm having to install it on my admin account, which then installs to the admin account AppData folder. So I'd like to be able to install it to Programs Files as suggested above. I believe @Arthur created a MST file for this judging by the information in the thread? That's what i've got. I worked with Arthur on getting it right for install.
robyholmes Posted September 16, 2020 Posted September 16, 2020 That's what i've got. I worked with Arthur on getting it right for install. Perfect Tim, could you send me a link to download it on PM or email?
timbo343 Posted September 16, 2020 Author Posted September 16, 2020 Perfect Tim, could you send me a link to download it on PM or email? It's on our forum and i've tagged you
Arthur Posted September 17, 2020 Posted September 17, 2020 I believe @Arthur created a MST file for this judging by the information in the thread? I originally created an MST, but couldn't get it working perfectly so then I switched to using a PSADT-based script which you can download from the link in post #13 (in addition to the SfB files). 1
CallMeMonks Posted December 2, 2020 Posted December 2, 2020 I originally created an MST, but couldn't get it working perfectly so then I switched to using a PSADT-based script which you can download from the link in post #13 (in addition to the SfB files). Sorry, I am being really stupid here but how do I use the downloaded files to install Skype Meetings App? I've gone to the link and downloaded all the files and extracted them to a folder... now what do I do?
timbo343 Posted December 2, 2020 Author Posted December 2, 2020 Sorry, I am being really stupid here but how do I use the downloaded files to install Skype Meetings App? I've gone to the link and downloaded all the files and extracted them to a folder... now what do I do? Run the _Install.cmd file from within Skype-Meetings-App-Master Folder.
CallMeMonks Posted December 2, 2020 Posted December 2, 2020 Run the _Install.cmd file from within Skype-Meetings-App-Master Folder. There is no _Install.cmd file... All I see are the following folders/files:
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