Jobos Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 (edited) We are having great problems with laptops shutting down from what looks like battery failure even though the batteries were replaced 9 months ago. They were working fine until a few weeks ago but now out of 30 laptops 5 or 6 will not last the hour lesson. On a fully charged laptop I watched the battery indicator and it rapidly dropped to 90% then stayed steady at 90%. After around 10 minutes the laptop just went off without warning. On powering back up the event log says the previous shutdown was unexpected. Booting up on charge the battery shows 89% and increases until fully charged. Now an odd thing happened. The laptop was next to me still on charge while I dealt with other matters and the laptop went off again. It was logged on as admin with the power setting set to not sleep while on charge but it still went off after 20 minutes and again the event log says the previous shutdown was unexpected. I'm trying duplicate what happened but it's been on for 30 minutes now and still not gone off. The laptops are Lenovo 410 which I know are old but with the new batteries they were working fine. All run Win10 1903 and have the latest updates. The power settings are set to Critical battery action: hibernate Critical battery level: 5% Battery report COMPUTER NAME LEN410-KS2-18 SYSTEM PRODUCT NAME LENOVO 2537OF7 BIOS 6IET85WW (1.45 ) 02/14/2013 OS BUILD 18362.1.amd64fre.19h1_release.190318-1202 PLATFORM ROLE Mobile CONNECTED STANDBY Not supported REPORT TIME 2019-11-1811:10:24 Installed batteries Information about each currently installed battery BATTERY 1 NAME 42T4763 MANUFACTURER SANYO SERIAL NUMBER 47 CHEMISTRY LION DESIGN CAPACITY 51,322 mWh FULL CHARGE CAPACITY 47,866 mWh CYCLE COUNT - Recent usage Power states over the last 3 days START TIME STATE SOURCE CAPACITY REMAINING 2019-11-1810:22:20 Active AC 97 % 46,516 mWh 11:10:23 Report generated AC 100 % 47,866 mWh Battery usage Battery drains over the last 3 days START TIME STATE DURATION ENERGY DRAINED - - - - - Usage history History of system usage on AC and battery BATTERY DURATION AC DURATION PERIOD ACTIVE CONNECTED STANDBY ACTIVE CONNECTED STANDBY 2018-07-09 - 2018-09-13 - - - - 2018-09-13 - 2018-09-17 - - 1:25:16 - 2019-09-02 - 2019-09-09 5:45:14 - - - 2019-09-09 - 2019-09-16 7:57:05 - - - 2019-09-16 - 2019-09-23 6:53:17 - 3:29:19 - 2019-09-23 - 2019-09-30 6:56:22 - - - 2019-09-30 - 2019-10-07 3:20:36 - - - 2019-10-07 - 2019-10-14 8:09:49 - 3:52:42 - 2019-10-14 - 2019-10-21 1:13:20 - - - 2019-10-21 - 2019-10-28 6:26:34 - - - 2019-10-28 - 2019-11-04 2:20:16 - - - 2019-11-05 - - - - 2019-11-06 - - 0:01:00 - 2019-11-07 - - - - 2019-11-08 - - - - 2019-11-09 - - - - 2019-11-10 - - - - 2019-11-11 0:13:25 - 0:01:37 - 2019-11-12 - - - - 2019-11-13 0:06:47 - 2:32:18 - 2019-11-14 - - - - 2019-11-15 - - - - 2019-11-16 - - - - 2019-11-17 - - - - Battery capacity history Charge capacity history of the system's batteries PERIOD FULL CHARGE CAPACITY DESIGN CAPACITY 2018-07-09 - 2018-09-13 - - 2018-09-13 - 2018-09-17 46,570 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-09-02 - 2019-09-09 50,846 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-09-09 - 2019-09-16 50,846 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-09-16 - 2019-09-23 50,846 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-09-23 - 2019-09-30 50,846 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-09-30 - 2019-10-07 50,846 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-10-07 - 2019-10-14 50,846 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-10-14 - 2019-10-21 50,794 mWh 51,269 mWh 2019-10-21 - 2019-10-28 48,568 mWh 51,240 mWh 2019-10-28 - 2019-11-04 47,866 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-11-05 47,866 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-11-06 47,866 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-11-07 47,866 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-11-08 47,866 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-11-09 47,866 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-11-10 47,866 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-11-11 47,866 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-11-12 47,866 mWh 51,322 mWh 2019-11-13 46,632 mWh 49,999 mWh 2019-11-14 44,320 mWh 47,520 mWh 2019-11-15 44,320 mWh 47,520 mWh 2019-11-16 44,320 mWh 47,520 mWh 2019-11-17 44,320 mWh 47,520 mWh Battery life estimates Battery life estimates based on observed drains AT FULL CHARGE AT DESIGN CAPACITY PERIOD ACTIVE CONNECTED STANDBY ACTIVE CONNECTED STANDBY 2018-07-09 - 2018-09-13 - - - - 2018-09-13 - 2018-09-17 - - - - 2019-09-02 - 2019-09-09 2:38:55 - 2:40:24 - 2019-09-09 - 2019-09-16 2:23:49 - 2:25:10 - 2019-09-16 - 2019-09-23 2:33:47 - 2:35:14 - 2019-09-23 - 2019-09-30 2:42:33 - 2:44:04 - 2019-09-30 - 2019-10-07 2:44:35 - 2:46:07 - 2019-10-07 - 2019-10-14 2:34:16 - 2:35:42 - 2019-10-14 - 2019-10-21 2:36:00 - 2:37:27 - 2019-10-21 - 2019-10-28 2:13:14 - 2:20:34 - 2019-10-28 - 2019-11-04 2:16:36 - 2:26:28 - 2019-11-05 - - - - 2019-11-06 - - - - 2019-11-07 - - - - 2019-11-08 - - - - 2019-11-09 - - - - 2019-11-10 - - - - 2019-11-11 2:14:12 - 2:23:54 - 2019-11-12 - - - - 2019-11-13 2:57:48 - 3:10:38 - 2019-11-14 - - - - 2019-11-15 - - - - 2019-11-16 - - - - 2019-11-17 - - - - Current estimate of battery life based on all observed drains since OS install Since OS install 2:23:15 - 2:33:36 - Edited November 18, 2019 by Jobos
Meldrew Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 So the laptop will power off even if its being actively used. Just to separate from goes into stand-by then dies for some reason. Meldrew
Jobos Posted November 18, 2019 Author Posted November 18, 2019 So the laptop will power off even if its being actively used. Just to separate from goes into stand-by then dies for some reason. Meldrew It wasn't being used when I had the laptop but can't say when the class had them.
thimon Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 You could have a blank PowerPoint presenting which will bypass any power settings, the display shouldn't go to sleep with this in place. We had some old Lenovo x230i's where we replaced the batteries with brand new ones, the battery life was still rubbish on them. Ended up replacing them all with Lenovo 300e's.
Jobos Posted November 18, 2019 Author Posted November 18, 2019 I've been round and set the laptops to low CPU performance to save power and dimmed the screen. When I got back the laptop I had on test was still logged on after 90 minutes although it was on charge, but it doesn't explain why it went off before.
steveg Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Does the laptop have an option for battery calibration? Sometimes it's in the bios, or a separate piece of software. Will completely discharge the battery so the gauge is more accurate.
Jobos Posted November 18, 2019 Author Posted November 18, 2019 Does the laptop have an option for battery calibration? Sometimes it's in the bios, or a separate piece of software. Will completely discharge the battery so the gauge is more accurate. No nothing like that but I am starting to think the batteries are going even though they are only 9 months old.
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