Jawloms Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 I've just purchased 30 laptops as I have a trolley set of them which need replacing. I budgeted around £400 per unit. I had seven different companies send me quotes, all came in around the £10.5K-£13k mark with varying specifications, makes and models. Then I got a quote from someone offering me "food for thought". Bearing in mind they received the same spec requirements as everyone else did, their offering was £690.30 per month for three years to lease the kit, after which I give it all back and lease new stuff, or I can pay a "fair market value" to own the kit. That would mean well over £25k for kit with a lifetime limited to three years. They asked for feedback. Here is my reply so far; Happy to provide feedback. I'd say your offering is absolutely ridiculous. I've said my budget is £12k, this is for units I'd expect to last me 4-5 years. You’re offering me something which will last only three years at over twice the cost, not including the "fair market value" I would still have to pay at the end of the term to actually then own the kit. I fail to see in any sense how that's an effective or efficient way of spending public money. Unless I missed something? Stuart Any suggestions? Anyone else want to add ludicrous quotes they've received? Stuart
mikeprice Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 I think they do this because some schools have no concept of working out costs over 5 years - so if they are given a cost for the first year they say 'wow - that's cheaper' and YES - I'm thinking of those wonderful cloud systems that teacher come back from conferences needing and library systems - when I asked for quotes for those I managed to VERY easily negotiate massive reduction in the up-front costs - but the on-going yearly 'subscription' was non-negotiable and very high cost when you looked at it. I think we all know the companies! OH - and then there was the printer/photocopier companies that submitted replacement costs where the numbers in the tables didn't add up to the totals at the bottom - they were bemused when I asked if they could send me the original spreadsheet they used to work it out - turned out they just typed it all in - not just one company - that was 2 of the 5 I asked for quotes! 1
Brimstone Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 Sounds ludicrous to me, as any school compliaint operating lease has to be less than the capital costs
DrBeaker Posted February 11, 2019 Posted February 11, 2019 ...OH - and then there was the printer/photocopier companies that submitted replacement costs where the numbers in the tables didn't add up to the totals at the bottom - they were bemused when I asked if they could send me the original spreadsheet they used to work it out - turned out they just typed it all in - not just one company - that was 2 of the 5 I asked for quotes! THAT is shocking.
mikeprice Posted February 12, 2019 Posted February 12, 2019 To be fair to one company I should say that a few months later the owner of the company rang up to see why they had been rejected - when I dug out the quote and my notes and told him about the adding up, he confessed that this specific salesman had done this several times - and had been sacked but was now trying to claim unfair dismissal - hence he was checking exactly how much damage the idiot had done. He was also shocked that anyone working for him would do the calculation about costs without using a spreadsheet. The other company that couldn't add up was the current support company - which was a problem as they had been really good for many years. I eventually managed to use a different (more senior) salesman who understood my spreadsheet and realised that I would be able to use it to compare all the different quotes and it would show up the 'tricks of the trade'. We ended up with a much better deal - as long as they remember my dire warnings about keeping an eye on the paper usage!
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