Microsoft EES which products do you purchase?

[tj2419]

I am just about to start getting quotes for our EES renewal and looking at ours we buy the Windows OS and Office licences seperately but I remember reading on here a lot of people buy a 'pack' with both licences in.

 

Basically this is what we buy into:

 

Office for desktops - 2FJ-00005 MicrosoftOfficeProPlusEducation AllLng License/SoftwareAssurancePack Academic OLV 1License LevelE Enterprise 1Year

OS for each Server - P73-05566 MicrosoftWindowsServerStandard AllLng License/SoftwareAssurancePack Academic OLV 1License LevelE AdditionalProduct 2Proc 1Year

Server CALs - R18-03499 MicrosoftWindowsServerCAL AllLng License/SoftwareAssurancePack Academic OLV 1License LevelE Enterprise UsrCAL 1Year

OS for desktops - KW5-00359 MicrosoftWINEDUE3 AllLng Upgrade/SoftwareAssurancePack Academic OLV 1License LevelE Enterprise 1Year

ProPlus Student - S2Y-00002 MicrosoftO365ProPlusOpenforStudents ShrdSvr AllLng MonthlySubscriptions-VolumeLicense Academic OLV 1License NoLevel Student withFaculty 1Month

ProPlus staff - S3Y-00004 MicrosoftO365ProPlusOpenforFaculty ShrdSvr AllLng MonthlySubscriptions-VL Academic OLV 1LicenseLevelE AdditionalProduct AddOn toOPP 1Month

 

Does anyone know if this is the most cost effective way or should I be looking into the 'packs' of licences?

 

Bit lost with MS licensing.

 

Thanks

[the_quick]

Well I'm bit similar situation, but need to sign for first time to the EES

 

And new licensing for Server 2016 can be quite expensive as you have to buy at least 8 cores and license 16 cores for any physical server and CALs are not cheap either.

 

We are moving away from Office software to G Suite, lots of school around here moved to O365 - option to save money.

 

Regarding the Pack, there is something called Desktop Education Pack - if I'm right license you for Desktop OS, Office and a CAL - last quote I got was £14.56 per Full Time Employee (FTE)

As far as I heard tFTE are now calculated differently than before, here what I was give as guide:

In the UK, the FTE count is made up of Faculty and Staff members whereFaculty are any employees, contractors and volunteers who teach or perform research for the intuition for more than 200hrs per annum and Staff are non-faculty employees, contractors and volunteers who perform work for the instruction for more than 200hrs per annum and use an institution qualified desktop.

 

The note about "employees such as maintenance, grounds keeping, and cafeteria staff may be excluded from the faculty/staff FTE employee count if they do not use institutional devices" still applies.

 

Some clarification/examples were provided to us by Microsoft:

 

Teachers – I will include all teaching staff - YES

Admin – I will include all admin staff - YES

Cleaners – cleaners work more than 200 hours per year but don’t have access to a PC – do I need to include them? - NO

Kitchen – kitchen assistants work more than 200 hours per year but don’t have access to a PC – do I need to include them? - NO

Cook – I will include the cook as she has access to a PC and her own staff username/log on. - YES

Midday Assistants – some midday assistants work more than 200 hours per year but none of them have access to a PC – do I need to include them? - NO

Teaching Assistants – Teaching assistants work more than 200 hours per year but don’t have their own PC/Laptop or staff user name/log on – they just help the pupils using the computers – do I need to include them? - NO

[GiggleKitteh]

Your reseller should be able to advise on this but the main products to look at are:

 

Desktop Edu pack - this gives the operating system and office, if you include wMDOP (microsoft desktop optimisation pack) you get some of the desktop management tools as well (e.g. sccm for desktops)

CoreCAL Pack - this gives you the CAL licences for your desktops to connect to your servers

 

For both of these you pay based on FTE and get licences for all your desktops.

Once you have office for all desktops you get the basic level of O365 for free for all staff and students, this includes ProPlus

 

For servers as @kcymer says you need to licence per core.

For the OS you can have Standard or Datacenter licences, which you need will depend on how much virtualisation you have. With Standard you are covered for 2 VMS and need to buy extra licences for additional VMs. For Datacenter you can have as many VMs as you like.

For SQL you can licence server+cal or per core. For any servers with external access you must licence per core or in theory you would need cals for every person in the world who could get access!!!

[KK20]

The EES desktop packs include CALs (depends on what you need, std vs enterprise offer different CAL packages). Main omissions from either of the EES desktop packs that catch people are SQL CALS and RDS CALS.

 

Server 2016 datacentre offers a different subset of options too - stretch clustering might be of use to people who don't have SAN replication as you can replicate SAN to cheaper iscsi NAS for cheap emergency resiliency etc. This might be of benefit to some people and worth the extra cost of licensing vs hardware (a separate discussion of course).