[sims] Automating lesson marks based on quick behaviour incidents

[missnkg]

Hi, hope you can help.

 

Is there a way to automatically change the lesson mark (on a register) based on a "quick" behaviour incident awarded by right clicking on a student name?

 

detail:

In our school students are given a numbered mark on the register (2) and then positive or negative behaviours either raise or lower their score to a 1 or 3. At the moment, staff are right clicking names to award behaviour or achievement incidents and then having to manually edit the lesson mark to reflect the behaviour awarded...very time consuming and leading to inconsistencies. (the behaviour management logs are used by tutors and heads of year to monitor poor behaviour. Lesson monitor is shown to the students to show the number of "code 3's" they have scored and thus whether they are in weekly detention.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks

[MrMat]

Hi, hope you can help.

 

Is there a way to automatically change the lesson mark (on a register) based on a "quick" behaviour incident awarded by right clicking on a student name?

 

detail:

In our school students are given a numbered mark on the register (2) and then positive or negative behaviours either raise or lower their score to a 1 or 3. At the moment, staff are right clicking names to award behaviour or achievement incidents and then having to manually edit the lesson mark to reflect the behaviour awarded...very time consuming and leading to inconsistencies. (the behaviour management logs are used by tutors and heads of year to monitor poor behaviour. Lesson monitor is shown to the students to show the number of "code 3's" they have scored and thus whether they are in weekly detention.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks

 

Unfortunately there isn't a way to facilitate this within SIMS. Attendance and Behaviour are different modules that aren't linked in any way.

 

Can I ask why you're using numerical values in the register? Wouldn't it make more sense to just assign the behaviour points and then you can monitor poor behaviour through the behaviour module?

[badidas]

MrMat

 

Using numbers instead of attendance marks is quite popular in schools, i understand the reasoning behind it, but it is quite difficult to maintain and becomes more troublesome when reporting on it.

 

But you are quite right, the 2 modules are "separate" and what missnkg is trying to achieve will not be possible

[missnkg]

MrMat,

 

As badidas says, it's the way the school decided to go without really understanding the way SIMS works, and now we are trying to work around the problems it causes. The main reason being that tutors at the end of the day display Lesson Monitor to show their form group the number of "code 3's" they got in one day so that the whole class can see their own total. I'll look into your idea, unless you know of a way to display a whole class's cumulative total of behaviour incidents on one register style view without having to run a report?

 

Thanks

Edited May 4, 2016 by missnkg
missed info

[vikpaw]

Are they actually storing or adding any further information with the behaviour module? If you're just using quick add behaviour for the sake of it in name only, but actually monitoring via the attendance mark, stop using the behaviour module altogether. Just get them to alter the attendance mark directly, if that's where you're getting your data from anyway.

 

If you are going to continue with what you're doing, the homepage panels that show conduct could be useful to show a daily summary for your group. This is the closest you'll get to summary data without actually having to run a report.

[Esteban_Child_of_the_Sun]

Thinking outside the box a little you could revert the registers back to just being registration marks, use the quick behavior and achievement to record events then set up a scheduled task to export those to assessment manager (say at the end of every lesson) and display the info in a marksheet attached to each reg group/class. That way you can also add in the functionality to calculate the individual and group total scores. We do something similar but for monitoring weekly attendance but the principal would be the same.

[vikpaw]

A scheduled task that exports conduct and pushes it to assessment manager. Interested to know more.

[badidas]

It certainly is thinking outside the box, and i fear it may be a nightmare to manage, but i am also interested to know more.

[Esteban_Child_of_the_Sun]

We have designed a report in SIMS that outputs any data from the reporting engine via command reporter as an XML file along with the student's name and UPN, then using the PowerShell script below we apply an xslt template to the output from the report to turn it in to an assessment manager results file (the xslt has the definitions of the aspects and result sets we want it imported in to). Then we just import the results file. This specific script and associated report and xsl file extract the present and absence marks for the last 5 days (4 days ago to today) so the school can use the color highlighting in assessment manager to say if a student's attendance has changed or stayed the same week on week over the whole academic year. I've attached the xsl file )edit: apparently I can't upload .xsl file so I've added .txt to the end) for this too so you can see what it looks like, most of it is the aspect definitions that is exported straight from SIMS. WeeklyAttendance.xsl.txt

 

 

$SRCPATH="C:\Program Files (x86)\SIMS\Attendance Monitoring"

$SIMSPATH="\\SIMS-01\SIMS$\SIMS"

$PWD="Wouldn't you like to know"

$Instance="SIMS2012"

 

 

$command= @'

& "C:\Program Files (x86)\SIMS\SIMS .net\CommandReporter.exe" /User:SIMSSuport /PASSWORD:$PWD /SERVERNAME:$env:COMPUTERNAME\$Instance /DATABASENAME:SIMS /REPORT:WeeklyAttendance /OUTPUT:$SIMSPATH\ATTEND\Weekly\output.xml

'@

 

 

Invoke-Expression $command

 

 

$FiveDaysAgo=(Get-Date).addDays(-4).ToString("yyyy-MM-dd")

$Today=Get-Date -format d

 

 

cd $SRCPATH

$command= @'

& "$SRCPATH\msxsl.exe" "$SIMSPATH\ATTEND\Weekly\output.xml" WeeklyAttendance.xsl -o "$SIMSPATH\ATTEND\Weekly\Results Weekly Attendance WB $FiveDaysAgo.xml" Date="$Today"

'@

 

 

Invoke-Expression $command

& del "$SIMSPATH\ATTEND\Weekly\output.xml"