just_david Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Hi Folks yet more tales from the makes of, oh god why, why do people still use Java... Over the summer we updated to Java 8 and a new version of Google chrome. Sadly, now a lot of websites aren't working, part due to last being updated seemingly sometime befor the internet itself was invented. Our current problem is mathsnet, specifically MathsNet Ltd: Equation Buster 1. has anyone had any luck getting that towork with new versions of chrome and java? Downgrading isn't an option, data security and all, but even adding java exceptions doesn't seem to get the website to run.
pantscat Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Isn't that a Chrome "feature" now? Not supporting NPAPI plugins like Java? It'll probably work in IE... :-)
just_david Posted October 19, 2015 Author Posted October 19, 2015 I get the same error in IE. Chrome default blocks some of the old plugins, but Java itself blocks anything that isn't secured too Chrome - blocks old Java apps Java - blocks unsigned Java apps Its a double whammy for some websites though >.<
just_david Posted October 19, 2015 Author Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) chrome just says, application not supported, IE goes with, well it actually just outright doesn't run. Firefox (which we have an outdated version of and are hoping to uninstall soon) goes (yip yip yip) - activate java - allow to run - error -security settings prevented it from running Edited October 19, 2015 by just_david
pantscat Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 It should try and run an ActiveX control in IE... maybe add the site as a Trusted Site... presuming that you trust it!
just_david Posted October 20, 2015 Author Posted October 20, 2015 It's added as a trusted site, but even IE blocks it for being unverified now
pantscat Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Yep - that's an IE security setting. To get around it: a. Open internet explorer. b. Click Tools – Internet Options. c. Click the Security tab – Custom Level button. d. Under ActiveX ensure the following are set to enabled o Run ActiveX and plug-ins – Enabled o Download Signed ActiveX Control – Enabled o Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting – Enabled e. Set the following to “Prompt” o Download unsigned ActiveX Control – Prompt o Initialize and script ActiveX controls not mark as safe – Prompt NOTE - This does introduce an element of risk though... as any unsigned controls could be activated by users.
just_david Posted October 21, 2015 Author Posted October 21, 2015 thats sort of helped XD now IE doesn't report an error and lets it run, but the moment it reaches java its still blocked. there must be a url for the app that isn't apparent, I've whitelisted the entire site in java now but it still doesn't run >.<
pantscat Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 What web-filtering do you use? Can you do a report on the source IP?
grant_girdwood Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Would be worthwhile running a Wireshark and inspecting it to see if anything is being dropped or what URL it is failing on... p.s. have you tried contacting mathsnet for support?
just_david Posted October 21, 2015 Author Posted October 21, 2015 Thats pretty much what mathsnet did, pointed us at that webpage which hasn't worked. I've whitelisted everything i can think of, lowered every setting I can find. Google just won't play at all, and firefox and IE just seem to ignore the whitelisting
just_david Posted October 21, 2015 Author Posted October 21, 2015 Well I still can't get it to work in chrome, but its now sorted in IE \o/ had one of those, been staring at it for 6 hours lets get a cuppa and start from the beginning, oh, there it is moments. I love those moments, just wish they'd happen sooner
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