Natashac15 Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Hi, I was wondering if anyone can help me please, I am wanting to make a marksheet in SIMS for calculating att 8/pro 8 . I was wondering if anyone maybe has a template set up for me to import so I can change where required once imported. I would really appreciate any help as a starting point. Thank you in advance
PhilNeal Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 This is a complex calculation. The school report which was delivered in autumn does this calculation for you.
Natashac15 Posted March 23, 2015 Author Posted March 23, 2015 This is a complex calculation. The school report which was delivered in autumn does this calculation for you. Thank you for your response, do you have any further information/ or even a template i could possibly use please. Much appreciated. Thank you
PhilNeal Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 I'll ask our product manager but I think we could only get an approximation via a mark sheet calculation.
CAM Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) This is a complex calculation. The school report which was delivered in autumn does this calculation for you. How do I access this school report? EDIT - Never mind, I just found it in the top level of the Reports menu. It's been staring me in the face all this time. Edited March 24, 2015 by CAM
PhilNeal Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 With the school report you will need to map your Aspects to ours (if you've used your own)
tombry Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Attainment 8: Calculating the New Measure - SIMS Assessment Manager Blog David Pott has documented a very basic set up of it for AM7 - I uploaded a template in the original topic I started on here about it, but my template is very different now - and isn't something I'm willing to share, as it's a mess! 1
CAM Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 With the school report you will need to map your Aspects to ours (if you've used your own) Where do I go to do that? I've never done mapping before.
tombry Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 It's in a very logical place... Tools - Performance - Assessment - Mapping Tool 1
bobsmith Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 I've done one but you have to take any progress 8 calculations with a huge grain of salt at this point in time. It's based off David Potts example, linked above, but I've added an aspect for holding the expected attainment 8 for the student (pre calculated in excel and imported) You can then work out invidivual progress 8 and then use summary rows to get the overall. If you set it up correctly you can then play with in Discover - this was the real eye opener for our SLT! While the calculations are complex, I can't understand why they would be so complex that you couldn't do them in a marksheet. Phil Neal, can you extend your answer at all?
PhilNeal Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 @bobsmith - its things like only the first exam entry counts - retakes don't increase your score.
bobsmith Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Ah but what people are likely to be asking for, and what David Potts wrote about was an assessment marksheet i.e. looking at things like predicted/estimated grades and forecasting progress 8 so that we can target interventions etc. For this kind of analysis what we are suggesting shouldn't be as complex as the school report method as we are only dealing with teacher assessments. The first exam entry rules will only apply when looking at progress 8 once results are received during the summer. 1
CAM Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 So does this mean if I map a load of result sets for Progress 8 that are used for teacher assessments over the term, only the first one will count? :/
bobsmith Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 So does this mean if I map a load of result sets for Progress 8 that are used for teacher assessments over the term, only the first one will count? :/ If this is in response to what I said, then no. The marksheet you create (based off David Potts example) will be looking at all the subjects for one resultset e.g. Spring 1 The progress 8 calculations you perform will be based on this point in time. When you have more data e.g. Spring 2 you can adjust the resultset in the template to look at the new resultset. First entry is a bit of a red herring when we are talking about assessment rather than Exam results. 1
Natashac15 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Posted March 27, 2015 Hi, regarding mapping subjects so the progress/attainment 8 figures appear in the school report how do I go about doing this, would anyone be able to help me regarding mapping aspects/results please. Thank you
bobsmith Posted March 27, 2015 Posted March 27, 2015 Hi Natashac15 http://www.edugeek.net/forums/mis-systems/130498-progress-8-measure-5.html#post1300036 I only asked that question myself yesterday - see PhilNeals reply to me. Once you import the xml files it's pretty self explanatory - the manual he references is required reading.
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