AceDaz Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Hi I have been asked to look into some training for me, I have been said that I have a extreme lack of training in my school life and that they will look at a course for me. As I do not have a technician to line mange I have been asked to look into a course for School Management - Line Manage / Budget Management etc etc - things that a IT Manager would do. I know I can do them given the chance, but if I have a qualification or something similar then it stands me in good stead for a promotion. has anyone got any ideas on such course? I have looked on the Lancashire County Council website but can't see anything. Thanks
alan-d Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Have a look at FITs The FITS Foundation - Professional qualifications and support for ICT staff within education
Dos_Box Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) It's a shame the NASA, CASA and CAIN courses are still not going at Lancaster Uni (seeing as you are local). They were very good and quite a few here did them 'back in the day'. @DarrenMcginiss- Do you want me to move this to the courses forum where it may get a better response? Edited October 16, 2014 by Dos_Box
AceDaz Posted October 16, 2014 Author Posted October 16, 2014 Hi Yes please, sorry I was not aware there was a courses forum. It's a shame the NASA, CASA and CAIN courses are still not going at Lancaster Uni (seeing as you are local). They were very good and quite a few here did them 'back in the day'. @DarrenMcginiss- Do you want me to move this to the courses forum where it may get a better response?
Kitkatninja Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 It's a pity that you don't have anyone to line manage as it looks like there's funding in your area for the NVQ 3 in Management and NVQ 2 in Team Leading. Apart from that, another +1 for the FITS range of courses and what about the Prince2 range of certs for project management? Or if they can spring for it, look at the M258 IT Project and Service Management from the OU Then afterward, you can take a look at the Qualifications for School Business Managers...
AceDaz Posted October 24, 2014 Author Posted October 24, 2014 Have a look at FITs The FITS Foundation - Professional qualifications and support for ICT staff within education Looked at it and I don't think its 100% appropriate from what I'm looking for. Thanks anyway
GrumbleDook Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 The NVQs in Management / Team Leading are a really good start, not just for working in education. If you do any sports then coaching courses will also work on the same skill set as well. The Qualifications in School Business Management (Qualifications for School Business Managers) are probably your best bet, giving you a full breadth of school management. Some members have completed the certificate so they could be able to help. (@sylv3r?) Prince2 is also handy but deals with process and structures of work rather than people skills (though you need both to do project management) FITS may seem a tad technical, but it covers important areas of management and whilst the materials may look dry, the round table discussions that go on whilst you are on the course can really open your eyes. The other option is to request time shadowing a fellow NM who manages a large team. One day a fortnight for 3 months will give you a wealth of ideas, as well as a sounding board for the person you are shadowing.
AceDaz Posted November 4, 2014 Author Posted November 4, 2014 what are you looking for? Basically an ICT Manager course but without a Technician
AceDaz Posted November 4, 2014 Author Posted November 4, 2014 Thanks, all those courses seem heavily involved and for a long time The NVQs in Management / Team Leading are a really good start, not just for working in education. If you do any sports then coaching courses will also work on the same skill set as well. The Qualifications in School Business Management (Qualifications for School Business Managers) are probably your best bet, giving you a full breadth of school management. Some members have completed the certificate so they could be able to help. (@sylv3r?) Prince2 is also handy but deals with process and structures of work rather than people skills (though you need both to do project management) FITS may seem a tad technical, but it covers important areas of management and whilst the materials may look dry, the round table discussions that go on whilst you are on the course can really open your eyes. The other option is to request time shadowing a fellow NM who manages a large team. One day a fortnight for 3 months will give you a wealth of ideas, as well as a sounding board for the person you are shadowing.
GrumbleDook Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Courses dealing with people skills will do one of two things. 1 - run over a short period of time to verify your existing skill set on people skills 2 - run over a longer period of time to allow for skills / competencies to be understood and put into place (to allow for demonstration of application, e.g. work-based learning where the course focuses on your existing job / increased roles rather than being purely academic). It sounds like you want a course length that fits no 1, but the skills / competencies that come from no 2.
AceDaz Posted November 4, 2014 Author Posted November 4, 2014 It's part of my appraisal, I think my line manager wants me to get some skills of managing personnel but without actually managing them as they cannot afford to get a technician here. To help me when going for interviews basically Courses dealing with people skills will do one of two things. 1 - run over a short period of time to verify your existing skill set on people skills 2 - run over a longer period of time to allow for skills / competencies to be understood and put into place (to allow for demonstration of application, e.g. work-based learning where the course focuses on your existing job / increased roles rather than being purely academic). It sounds like you want a course length that fits no 1, but the skills / competencies that come from no 2.
GrumbleDook Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 To be honest, it is not always about that. It is also about understanding about how others in the organisation line manage as well. As you are a cross-department specialist it means you have to interact with a variety of personnel and management structures, so understanding why different teams work in different ways can make your job easier, and have things run even smoother. The way things are ... option 2 is the best bet for you, for long term improvement. Yes, it means investment of time and effort ... but if you go for a job and say you did a 1 day management course compared to a course that gives significant credits should it be used for degrees or further qualifications ... it really does make a difference.
Leeoakley Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 Have you had a look at what is being asked for on the job specs you are likely to go for? Unfortunately if you want something worthwhile 9 times out of 10 you have to invest time to achieve it.
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