flyinghaggis Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I've been contemplating treating myself to a new Haswell-E X99 based rig and wondered if anyone had any recommendations where to buy a pre-built system from? I still may end up ordering parts and building it myself but I'm at the point where virtually all the components in my PC could use an upgrade so wondered if buying an entire system might make more sense. Had a look at Scan and Overclockers. Anyone use either of them before?
flyinghaggis Posted September 15, 2014 Author Posted September 15, 2014 Beers are on you! I'm not sure what I'll pay for it with though seeing as we may not be able to use the pound sterling after Thursday
mrbios Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 There's no fun in buying a PC of that spec and buying it prebuilt! Where's the sense of adventure! but to answer your question, overclockers are fantastic with things like this. Rather than buying online if you're spending alot give them a ring and chat to them about it, you don't have to use the components on their prebuilt specs on the website either (or post on the pre sales section of customer services area of the forum). They do a damn good job of the cabling inside their pre built PCs too.
flyinghaggis Posted September 15, 2014 Author Posted September 15, 2014 There's no fun in buying a PC of that spec and buying it prebuilt! Where's the sense of adventure! but to answer your question, overclockers are fantastic with things like this. Rather than buying online if you're spending alot give them a ring and chat to them about it, you don't have to use the components on their prebuilt specs on the website either (or post on the pre sales section of customer services area of the forum). They do a damn good job of the cabling inside their pre built PCs too. I built my last PC from components, and I may well do the same again, but I wanted to get quotes from a couple of places first to see how they compare. I've been lurking on the OCUK forums for a while and the folk on there seem pretty knowledgeable. I'd probably want to go for a custom build since I'm a bit fussy about which components it's fitted with! Both Scan and OCUK seem to offer a custom build service which I like the idea of. I also like the look of the new X99 PC Alienware are releasing next month but it's probably just a load of cobbled together Foxconn parts in a bling case with a ludicrous markup on the price tag. Looks cool though
mrbios Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) I also like the look of the new X99 PC Alienware are releasing next month but it's probably just a load of cobbled together Foxconn parts in a bling case with a ludicrous markup on the price tag. Looks cool though [ATTACH=CONFIG]26394[/ATTACH] Well bling is one word for it, i'd opt for "abortion" myself but each to their own haha I wish i could afford X99 and DDR4 right now, I keep tempting myself into it but my realisation that i play nothing but dota puts an end to that pretty quick m.2 SSD, X99, 16gb+ ddr4, six core cpu.... I'd sit there with benchmarks running all day, sod gaming, just show off raw performance figures lol I've had good experiences buying from scan and Ocuk, both personal and work. Ebuyer are the one only e-tailer i'd avoid (Had poor experiences with both personal and work purchases there!) novatech aren't bad too, and will do custom builds (may have to phone them) but i doubt their prices will be the best....get brilliant prices for work, often knocking off huge amounts but their web prices for personal purchases aren't overly competitive. Edited September 15, 2014 by mrbios 1
Ric_ Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Can I have your job? I wish I earned enough to buy a Haswell-E (I assume you aren't buying a stoopid low spec one because that is pointless) 1
mac_shinobi Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Purchased some items from scan but never gotten anything from OCUK, I have however used Aria ( Aria PC - Computer Hardware, Components, Monitors.. at lowest prices ) , Ebuyer and a few other places. Aria seem to have the cheapest 5960X, not looked at motherboards or DDR4 RAM though as far as prices for them 5960X @ Aria : Intel Core i7-5960X 8x 3.00GHz (Haswell-E) Socket 2011 Processor - Aria Technology Price: ( £755.94 inc. VAT ) and ( £629.95 exc. VAT ) Edited September 16, 2014 by mac_shinobi 1
Sunnyknight Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Purchased some items from scan but never gotten anything from OCUK, I have however used Aria ( Aria PC - Computer Hardware, Components, Monitors.. at lowest prices ) , Ebuyer and a few other places. Aria seem to have the cheapest 5960X, not looked at motherboards or DDR4 RAM though as far as prices for them 5960X @ Aria : Intel Core i7-5960X 8x 3.00GHz (Haswell-E) Socket 2011 Processor - Aria Technology Price: ( £755.94 inc. VAT ) and ( £629.95 exc. VAT ) This is coming from the guy, who hated on me having a £2800 rig. YOU JUST PAID NEAR £800 FOR A CPU! The nerve! On the other end, i'm jealous. I think i'll have to upgrade from 6 core to 8 core very soon, and my mobo, and ram... holy hell why don't i just build another rig. Can't have mac beating me on rig owners! DAMN YOU MAC! DAMN YOU! 1
mac_shinobi Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) This is coming from the guy, who hated on me having a £2800 rig. YOU JUST PAID NEAR £800 FOR A CPU! The nerve! On the other end, i'm jealous. I think i'll have to upgrade from 6 core to 8 core very soon, and my mobo, and ram... holy hell why don't i just build another rig. Can't have mac beating me on rig owners! DAMN YOU MAC! DAMN YOU! I'm not building an X99 machine - too much £££ Ive got a Z97 mobo lol I was only suggesting Aria with regards to buying the CPU and parts from for an X99 system That 5960X is a beast of a cpu though !! See what the prices are like come january !! Maybe use the z97 board and an i5 cpu to build a NAS using freenas / open filer and get the parts for an x99 system !! Although GPU wise I will only have the gtx 760 lol Edited September 16, 2014 by mac_shinobi
Sunnyknight Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 I'm not building an X99 machine - too much £££ Ive got a Z97 mobo lol I was only suggesting Aria with regards to buying the CPU and parts from for an X99 system That 5960X is a beast of a cpu though !! Oh. Phew. Relief. lol. I'd still pay the extra £10 or £20 to buy from OCUK. They give haribo... lol Yeah 5960X is insane, it's similar to when the 3930k was released, or the 4970k? (i think). Hopefully drop in price within 6 months, if AMD throw out another CPU that may / may not challenge it. If anyone is thinking of building a X99 rig, upwards of £3000 for a 5 year safety net. 1
abillybob Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 My question, why do you need such a powerful CPU anyway a standard i7 is overkill for most home use at the moment in my eyes. Is it just because you want to future proof it? Because if so that's a lot of money to spend just to make sure it'll last a couple years longer! Just my two pence really.
sonofsanta Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Can I have your job? I wish I earned enough to buy a Haswell-E (I assume you aren't buying a stoopid low spec one because that is pointless) I don't think any Haswell-E part can be classified as "low spec". Oh noes only six Haswell cores with quad channel DDR4 and 28 PCI-E lanes! I'm such a pauper! I'd still pay the extra £10 or £20 to buy from OCUK. They give haribo... lol Here you go, I just saved you £5-15 and likely got you much more Haribo than you would otherwise: Online Food Shopping - ASDA Groceries AMD ain't gonna be competitive till at least 2016, that's when they're targeting their new architecture for. They've as much as admitted themselves that the Bulldozer/Piledriver/whatever design has been a steaming pile of, and that the module design they used was rubbish.
mrbios Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 My question, why do you need such a powerful CPU anyway a standard i7 is overkill for most home use at the moment in my eyes. Is it just because you want to future proof it? Because if so that's a lot of money to spend just to make sure it'll last a couple years longer! Just my two pence really. Some people just love the technology, personally i'd love to upgrade.....i don't need it, nor will i need it for some time i imagine, but i still want it! It's an expensive hobby in the same way some people are with cars really. X99 and 8 core CPU, watercooling, overclocking and see how good you can get those benchmark results, it's good fun!
mac_shinobi Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 My question, why do you need such a powerful CPU anyway a standard i7 is overkill for most home use at the moment in my eyes. Is it just because you want to future proof it? Because if so that's a lot of money to spend just to make sure it'll last a couple years longer! Just my two pence really. Hoping to use it as a test rig to learn more using virtual machines although currently like you said very expensive as will need at least 16gb of RAM and a motherboard etc, will be at least £1,500 for the cpu, motherboard and ram Presume a 4790k intel cpu would be good enough for that and gaming ?
mrbios Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Hoping to use it as a test rig to learn more using virtual machines although currently like you said very expensive as will need at least 16gb of RAM and a motherboard etc, will be at least £1,500 for the cpu, motherboard and ram Presume a 4790k intel cpu would be good enough for that and gaming ? Definitely, my work PC is a 3770k at stock speeds and 16gb ram, i've often got 3-4 VMs running at once. If you can put 32gb in that'd be the most helpful thing with VMs, CPU isn't so crucial unless you're doing stuff in them that means they'll be racking up the cpu usage while you're not inside them. That and a nice big SSD 1
Sunnyknight Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 My question, why do you need such a powerful CPU anyway a standard i7 is overkill for most home use at the moment in my eyes. Is it just because you want to future proof it? Because if so that's a lot of money to spend just to make sure it'll last a couple years longer! Just my two pence really. Well i dont want yer 2p!!! Lol In all honesty, i just love tech as @mrbios said. Nothing more or less. I don't think any Haswell-E part can be classified as "low spec". Oh noes only six Haswell cores with quad channel DDR4 and 28 PCI-E lanes! I'm such a pauper! Here you go, I just saved you £5-15 and likely got you much more Haribo than you would otherwise: Online Food Shopping - ASDA Groceries AMD ain't gonna be competitive till at least 2016, that's when they're targeting their new architecture for. They've as much as admitted themselves that the Bulldozer/Piledriver/whatever design has been a steaming pile of, and that the module design they used was rubbish. Actually... you cost me. You forgot about delivery. SO THERE! Oh right. Never saw a statement of such on any amd forums stating this. Ill dig about and see what happens. Would be interesting to see how / if their architecture improves.
sonofsanta Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Actually... you cost me. You forgot about delivery. SO THERE! Oh right. Never saw a statement of such on any amd forums stating this. Ill dig about and see what happens. Would be interesting to see how / if their architecture improves. I'm sure there's an Asda within walking distance for you Rory Read, AMD CEO: Breaking : AMD CEO Reveals Brand New x86 Core "Zen" Everyone knows that Bulldozer was not the game changing part when it was introduced three years ago. We have to live with that for four years but Zen, K12 we went out and got Jim Keller we went out and got Raja Koduri from Apple, Mark Papermaster, Lisa sue. We are building now our next generation graphics and compute technology that customers are very interested in and they’ll ( referring to the next generation graphics and compute architecture) move to the next generation node and they’ll be ready to go. ... Will we move down to [FinFETs]? yes absolutely and the next generation of products go there as we introduce them in 16 (2016).
flyinghaggis Posted September 16, 2014 Author Posted September 16, 2014 Oh noes only six Haswell cores with quad channel DDR4 and 28 PCI-E lanes! I'm such a pauper! If I go X99 I'll be making do with the lowly 5820k 2
mrbios Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 If I go X99 I'll be making do with the lowly 5820k cheapskate
chazzy2501 Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 I've used OCUK they're good and so is their customer support and returns policy. (they'll pick up a phone) 1
Arthur Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 If I go X99 I'll be making do with the lowly 5820k Are you planning on getting a GeForce GTX 970 or 980? They are due to be launched this week. www.techpowerup.com/205314/even-more-geforce-gtx-980-and-gm204-specs-tumble-out.html www.techpowerup.com/205286/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-and-gtx-970-pricing-revealed.html www.techpowerup.com/205274/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-has-three-displayport-connectors-g-sync-surround.html
mac_shinobi Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 http://www.eteknix.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-specifications-revealed/ Looks gbps that the 780 ti and 290X beat the new cards ? Could be wrong
mrbios Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 & 970 Specifications Revealed | eTeknix Looks gbps that the 780 ti and 290X beat the new cards ? Could be wrong Final GeForce GTX 980 Specifications Revealed | eTeknix few more details on that one, be interesting to see how these perform. On paper the 980 looks like it's going to equal a 780 (non-ti), but I'm guessing by that pixel fillrate going up so much that may not be the case perhaps. Either way though, must lower energy usage which is good, as graphics cards have started to get a bit silly in recent times.
Arthur Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) Could be wrong The 980 is meant to be about 10% faster than a 780 Ti, although we will have to wait for some actual reviews to find out if this is true. The significantly lower power consumption and five display connectors (3 x DisplayPort 1.2, 1 x HDMI 2.0 and 1 x DL-DVI) are welcome improvements too. Edited September 16, 2014 by Arthur 1
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