Knife attack at Chase Technology College

[fiza]

Just read that police are hunting a 13 year old after a knife attack on a pupil and a teacher.

 

School Knife Attack: Pupil, 13, Hunted In Malvern

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This sort of thing seems to be happening more, not sure why.

 

Don't think its games, more down to bad parents.

[AMLinington]

This sort of thing seems to be happening more, not sure why.

 

Don't think its games, more down to bad parents.

 

Lack of discipline. Feral kids who have no fear of authority or the consequences of their actions. 2nd or 3rd generation kids born from parents too weak or ineffectual at establishing said fear of consequences. Why? Because if you dare to spank your child you get hauled up for child abuse. The nanny state and this culture of fear over disciplining children has resulted in generations of parents who lack the ability to control their brats and a generation of kids who realise they can do whatever they like without practical consequences. Why exercise caution over your actions when the worst you get is 2 minutes sitting on the bottom of the stairs?

 

Don't get me wrong, beating the out of your child is wrong. But most parents - especially working parents who have to rely on child minders are not able to establish a consistent pattern of discipline. I recently read an interesting article on disciplining your kids like a video game - immediate consequences and no negotiation. Defining discipline on a set of 'rules' similar to video game logic. The problem with that is that as soon as you go back to work on Monday and the child minder takes over with her permissive attitudes and fear of getting reported for child abuse all the hard work you've done over the weekend is quickly stripped away.

 

In today's economy where it is very hard for most working families to survive on a single wage (or impossible), one parent is no longer 'full time' with the children so it becomes harder to maintain consistent disciplinary environments. What would earn the child a 'penalty' at home is ignored elsewhere so it's no wonder that kids have no respect for authority.

 

Then you have the parents who either don't KNOW how to do it effectively or don't CARE.

Edited September 8, 2014 by AMLinington

[Alkaline]

If I did wrong as a child I would get a slap. You don't do wrong again.

[pcstru]

This sort of thing seems to be happening more, not sure why.

Don't think its games, more down to bad parents.

Perhaps before the "why" and the rapid move to conclusions, how about something more than anecdotal evidence for "this sort of thing seems to be happening more"?

 

No, never mind, bring on the Daily Mail bite sized easy answers. One of my favourite Simpson's moments sums it up nicely "That's OK, your tears say more than real evidence ever could".

[localzuk]

One thing that is different now is that news travels much faster, and news agencies don't have limited space to publish articles - so don't have to cut things as often. So, effectively, we really can't tell if anything is more often now than, say, 30 years ago unless we look at actual crime data and even then we'll not get a great result as data logging requirements have changed over the years too.

 

Perceptions can be very deceiving. Instead of worrying about perceptions of an increase, we should simply focus on trying to stop the actions first and ignore the statistics.