Council Pay Reform

[russdev]

@Kyle

 

It is not to do with different lea's getting same pay (that is national wage scheme something different).

 

This is to do with everybody in same lea on same job getting same pay so if i worked as network manager that someone doing same role down road would get same job would be on the same grade.

 

Russell

[plexer]

The trouble is that I can see their point that if 2 people are employed in 2 different schools as a network manager both working 37 hours then they can both only do 37 hours work a week but one person may acheive more in that 37 hours with the way they work, the automation, systems they put in place.

 

Ben

[Heebeejeebee]

The trouble is that I can see their point that if 2 people are employed in 2 different schools as a network manager both working 37 hours then they can both only do 37 hours work a week but one person may acheive more in that 37 hours with the way they work, the automation, systems they put in place.

Ben

 

In theory two or more people in a similar job should do similar things hence the standardisation of pay scales. In practise we know this is not the case though but legally you could just do what you're paid to do, come in at the alloted hours and drop what you're doing and go home, to lunch etc. and pick it up later. Again we know that in our line of work this does not tend to happen.

 

We have a caretaker that does just this. I once saw him carrying a box down a corridor and just set it down undelivered because his lunch break had started. That's an extreme case but theoreticaly it can be done.

 

The changes in my LA are also being touted as an equal rights men v women thing but I have to admit that they seem to be saying 'OK a women earns x doing this job but a man earns x+1 so lets reduce the man to x and then it's fair' rather than getting to some common ground in between or even rasing the woman to x+1.

 

HBJB

[GrumbleDook]

The trouble is that I can see their point that if 2 people are employed in 2 different schools as a network manager both working 37 hours then they can both only do 37 hours work a week but one person may acheive more in that 37 hours with the way they work, the automation, systems they put in place.

 

Ben

 

But many jobs are not performance related.

 

This is the thing that teachers got all shirty about. It was expected that there was a minimum level that teachers should have ... students should not move backwards in their attainment ... however some kids do and if it is the teacher's fault they should be accountable. Likewise if a teacher is fantastic then they should get the rewards (UPS, AST, etc).

 

There is not much like that for us.

 

Business may give bonuses to staff for reaching targets but schools don't. It is expected that you will work to level x ... work below it and you get dropped via competency measures .... work higher and you might be able to justify a job evaluation and get upgraded (damn unlikely). The key is to get all NMs to have a decent wage to start with ... with decent levels of responsibility (no point saying a school network is crap and it is the NM's fault if they only get a budget af 3 farthings!)

 

Yes, the unions should get involved now ...