Well figured it out -----
My Network GUYS said the Cisco 6504 s were all set to support Jumbo Packets.
Well THEY WERE NOT.
Some packets got through thats why waiting forever actually got data - and the ISCSI initiator actually connected on and off
I went back to 1500 MTU and all is solid (ill work to get back to Jumbo later)
Hope this may help someone in the future