Jamo Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 XP has its annoyances. Windows 7 is definitely better for home users, I have serious reservations for what Microsoft are doing now with regard to enterprise though. Non managed libraries?!?! Totally ridiculous to assume that public folders be accessible by default on machines and with little we can do to lock down the ability to recreate the link to them. Also the link between profiles and user libraries!! Its so annoying that a user is able to browse their profile folder and see two Documents folders, one on the C Drive and one on the network?! Its totally bonkers! I have even used the registry key to hide the user profile location from desktop and explorer, but some programs (Cubase 5) seem insistent that you need to see the profile The logon speeds are pretty rubbish with Windows 7, you can reduce them by ensuring you are mapping to fewer shares and disabling some active setup keys but its still not quite XP speeds just yet. Windows 8 seems to have sorted log on speeds, but has obviously assumed that all workers want to do all day is share their progress on Facebook.
SYNACK Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 XP has its annoyances. Windows 7 is definitely better for home users, I have serious reservations for what Microsoft are doing now with regard to enterprise though. Non managed libraries?!?! Totally ridiculous to assume that public folders be accessible by default on machines and with little we can do to lock down the ability to recreate the link to them. Also the link between profiles and user libraries!! Its so annoying that a user is able to browse their profile folder and see two Documents folders, one on the C Drive and one on the network?! Its totally bonkers! I have even used the registry key to hide the user profile location from desktop and explorer, but some programs (Cubase 5) seem insistent that you need to see the profile The logon speeds are pretty rubbish with Windows 7, you can reduce them by ensuring you are mapping to fewer shares and disabling some active setup keys but its still not quite XP speeds just yet. Windows 8 seems to have sorted log on speeds, but has obviously assumed that all workers want to do all day is share their progress on Facebook. The dual docs thing is down to not setting 'move contents too' on the folder redirection at which point it leaves the defaults there too. Libraries have not really caused issues here but that may be down to our usage patterns. Mandatory profiles can speed up logons massively.
Jamo Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 The dual docs thing is down to not setting 'move contents too' on the folder redirection at which point it leaves the defaults there too. Libraries have not really caused issues here but that may be down to our usage patterns. Mandatory profiles can speed up logons massively. Libraries haven't caused issues here, its just the whole idea behind a redirected documents system which still allows users to save to C: just doesn't seem sensible to me! I know what you mean about the move contents to, but it doesn't explain why it would leave the redundant folders there, when they were never asked for?! Why create them when you know its going to be redirected? Mandatory profiles is the next step I think in logon time reduction, esp over the wireless connections.
sonofsanta Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Libraries haven't caused issues here, its just the whole idea behind a redirected documents system which still allows users to save to C: just doesn't seem sensible to me! You can also use GPP to hide those folders e.g. Update, %userprofile%\Documents, Hidden. But agreed, in terms of the enterprise and management, Win7 is a PITA. Nicer to actually use, but a right faff to control. I shouldn't need to be updating reg keys in this day and age for basic things like stopping Outlook saving attachments to a daft location. I seem to be doing more scripting now than I ever had to do with XP as well.
SYNACK Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Libraries haven't caused issues here, its just the whole idea behind a redirected documents system which still allows users to save to C: just doesn't seem sensible to me! I know what you mean about the move contents to, but it doesn't explain why it would leave the redundant folders there, when they were never asked for?! Why create them when you know its going to be redirected? Mandatory profiles is the next step I think in logon time reduction, esp over the wireless connections. The folders get created initially with the profile despite any policies to the contrary. If the redirect rule is set it will pull all the files/desktop.ini so that it can then remove the folders from the lib. Duplicate folders may appear after enabling Folder Redirection
mac_shinobi Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Been trying to fix a problem at one of our sites today, and remembered why I totally hate XP. Trying to install windows update: Failed, need to run patch Run MS Fixit patch to fix windows update: Failed, please Install SP3 via Windows update ... right *stabs XP a bit then runs back to shiny Win7* lol @ stabs xp a bit and runs back to shiny win 7. Could download the stand alone network installer for SP 3 --> try again ( if that fails there is a bat file to re register all the relevant files related to windows updates and restart the windows update service and maybe a couple of other bits. )
NikChillin Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 What about this? Suppose it depends on usage...
SYNACK Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 What about this? Suppose it depends on usage... Aaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggggggg, Aaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggggggg, Aaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggggggg. Sorry, nervous reaction. We had one of those, well the older versions. Slow, loud and insanely expensive on toner. They are the reason I hate Minolta as a brand. Your results may be different but I'd stay well clear personally.
Elison Posted October 16, 2012 Posted October 16, 2012 Trying to install windows update: Failed, need to run patch Run MS Fixit patch to fix windows update: Failed, please Install SP3 via Windows update ... right *stabs XP a bit then runs back to shiny Win7* the same here with Vista. thats why I cant stand it!
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