iPads - just. Seeking a walk through on set up

[Jamo]

we use certificates and stuff. I noticed there are some certificate settings in that config program, maybe i do it that way?

 

It depends on what type of authentication you are using. Im guessing its going to be either 'PEAP-MSCHAP' or 'Smart Card or Certificate'. The first one of these you can log on using your username and password normally as a domain user, but the second would require you dealing out a trusted certificate to your iPad which I don't think would be an easy task! Much easier would be to create a test WPA SSID on your wireless APs

 

If it works on your PCs there is no reason (in theory) why it shouldn't work with an iPad. I have used a combination of transparent proxies and firewall exception rules (so that port 80 is automatically proxied whereas 443 is just sent out as normal) Another way you can test is try to run Windows update on a normal PC (logged onto the Guest Wireless, making sure that it is accessing the external w update service not an internal WSUS) if it doesn't work (complaining of an unknown error(!?)) then you have a problem with HTTPS traffic being intercepted by a non compatible proxy and that is the part to look at. If Windows update works all ok and you can visit HTTPS sites using a standard Windows PC then it is back to the start and you can ignore my lengthy post

[Little-Miss]

Pah. Apparently I can install certificates by just clicking them. I spent the afternoon trying to find the right one lol. Where do they actually live?

 

As far as I'm aware all the staff laptops on the guest account work just fine. I am starting to wonder whether it may be a guest thing as my iPhone struggles with some sites too..

[Little-Miss]

Sorry speckytechy for taking over your thread!

[speckytecky]

Hey - not a problem. The responses have been hugely useful to me as well. Looks like I need to speak to Net-Ctrl support about securing them via our ruckus.

 

Goodish news is these are not for the boys but management!

 

 

Sorry speckytechy for taking over your thread!

[Little-Miss]

Ha! Let me know the response!

[Jamo]

When you say the staff laptops run on the guest lan do you mean they connect to the guest wireless?

 

The certificates can be installed just by clicking on them but it needs to be valid for the client you are validating in the case of smart card or cert.

 

 

Would be interesting to see a vanilla Windows client with standard settings on the guest and test the different sites. One way around a forced proxy issue is to use a proxy.pac autoconfig file in the guest lan and force them to use a LA upstream proxy if one is available then open the standard 80, 443 DNS and Proxy ports on the wireless firewall

[Little-Miss]

I have Ruckus manged system.

 

Netbooks use a certificate dished out via GPO, staff just log onto the guest one as i stopped adding them to the domain cus it was a faff!

 

As you can tell this sort of stuff isnt my forte! lol

[Robadob]

The iPhone configuration utility ... A very useful piece of kit for deploying on mass, however I think MDM is much better.

 

Sorry to ask what is potentially a silly question, but what is MDM? I know it's Mobile Device Management, but are you referring to a particular product?

 

My own school already has quite a few iPod Touches and iPad 2's so I have become familiar with the iPhone Configuration Utility, but we'll soon be getting many more iPads so I'd like to know what your alternative is. I'm particularly interested in syncing content (books, music, podcasts) OTA, as well as apps.

[speckytecky]

@Net-Ctrl Support kindly set our Ruckus up with a separate account specific to the i-Pads.

 

I have Ruckus manged system.

 

Netbooks use a certificate dished out via GPO, staff just log onto the guest one as i stopped adding them to the domain cus it was a faff!

 

As you can tell this sort of stuff isnt my forte! lol

[alttab]

Sorry to ask what is potentially a silly question, but what is MDM? I know it's Mobile Device Management, but are you referring to a particular product?

 

My own school already has quite a few iPod Touches and iPad 2's so I have become familiar with the iPhone Configuration Utility, but we'll soon be getting many more iPads so I'd like to know what your alternative is. I'm particularly interested in syncing content (books, music, podcasts) OTA, as well as apps.

 

MDM is a category of product. Usually able to manage the other main mobile OS'es in addition to idevices running iOS. There are loads of products out there now, some of the vendors come from the windows mobile and blackberry-centric world and have added the functionality for supporting android and ios [because obviously enterprise MDM predates iOS], some hosted in the cloud, but most seem to be licensed per device, per month. I don't really know how far the pricing comes down when you start talking large quantities for edu, but it's not exactly a cheap option to go down the enterprise MDM route.

[Tricky_Dicky]

Think of MDM as GPO for iOS devices.

It allows you, on the fly, to change permissions, push out certain applications, email account settings, shared calendars and the like. It comes bundled with the new version of Lion server for free or you can pay for a company such as AirWatch and they will host it for you as well as a few extra features. I got quoted about £1.50 per device per month so it is not cheap and at the moment I'm trying to get my hands on a mac mini purely to do the MDM stuff.

I don't think it can sync books, music and podcasts but I may be wrong.