jamesbrown Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 Hi, We have recently upgraded the school to use Windows 7 Enterprise. On some computers around the school when the "shut down" button is pressed either in the start-menu or on the CTRL+ALT+Delete menu, Windows logs off. This is happening on random machines, desktops and laptops. We can't find anything in Group Policy that could be doing this / or in control panel on the computer. Also there is no additional software installed that could be changing this. Can anyone tell me why this is happening or a way to fix it? Cheers James.
ihaveaproblem Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 Same problem here. Not sure why it happens and to be honest i've not looked into it much because of bigger problems. I'm in the proccess of creating a fresh set of group policys because all the currents ones were made with server 2003 and designed for XP. This should fix it is it is something in GP
rich_tech Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) This is controllable via GPO on the computer. It rests in the Computer Configuration Policies System/Power Management/ - you might have to dig around in there a bit, it is in there though. Would recommend this one - http://blogs.technet.com/b/askds/archive/2008/03/19/managing-power-with-group-policy-part-3-of-3.aspx http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-SG/winserverGP/thread/551f512e-733c-44c0-915c-7c3f1543fb34 Group Policy Settings for Start Menu and Taskbar - More information on it all. Richard Edited September 13, 2011 by rich_tech 1
ihaveaproblem Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 Are you reffering to this group policy? Change Start Menu power button In my case this policy is set as 'Shutdown' to display on the start menu and it still sometimes logs off like jamesbrown mentioned instead of shutting down.
rich_tech Posted September 13, 2011 Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) hello, I am referring to the actual setting of the action on the buttons as a default, you can do this within - System\Power Management\Button Settings Its in the computer configuration part of the GPOs iirc, as I am obviously not at my works machine at the moment and I recently set up power plans and settings for our site. We have it also so kids cannot shutdown the machines also, this is set in this guide here - Prevent from users to shut down their computers via Group policy - Petri.co.il forums by Daniel Petri Edited September 13, 2011 by rich_tech shutdown not logoff in a sentence
jamesbrown Posted September 13, 2011 Author Posted September 13, 2011 Is there any way that the setting can be changed through Group Policy on the server to save going around each computer? Cheers
ihaveaproblem Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 hello, I am referring to the actual setting of the action on the buttons as a default, you can do this within - System\Power Management\Button Settings Its in the computer configuration part of the GPOs iirc, as I am obviously not at my works machine at the moment and I recently set up power plans and settings for our site. We have it also so kids cannot shutdown the machines also, this is set in this guide here - Prevent from users to shut down their computers via Group policy - Petri.co.il forums by Daniel Petri Those group policy options only control stuff like, If close lid = shutdown, sleep etc. If press power button = shutdown, sleep etc. In my case (and in jamesbrown's case I thought) we are pressing the shutdown button in the start-menu and instead of shutting down, it logs you off I’ve not seen a policy that does this (And why would there be since there is a log off button to log you off^^) I’ve still got this problem and still not found a fix
jamesbrown Posted September 17, 2011 Author Posted September 17, 2011 That is the problem I'm having ihaveaproblem, Same as you I still have not found a fix. If I find a fix I will post it one here.
glennda Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 just out of interest - at any point have you applied the policy which changes the shutdown to log off? if so have you set it as not configured now? if so try setting it to disabled rather then enabled as gpo settings can linger around a bit.
ihaveaproblem Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 just out of interest - at any point have you applied the policy which changes the shutdown to log off? if so have you set it as not configured now? if so try setting it to disabled rather then enabled as gpo settings can linger around a bit. Where is this policy? That’s exactly what is happening ( sometimes it does the same if I click restart ) instead of shutting down/restarting the machine it logs off and presents you with the ctrl -alt - del login screen. Can’t seem to find this policy you mention that changes the shutdown button in the start-menu to log you off instead.
glennda Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 its here User Configuration\Administrative Templates\Start Menu and Taskbar Group Policy Settings for Start Menu and Taskbar 1
ihaveaproblem Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 Oh that. Hmm well it's set as not configured, but it may have been set on the old gpo's before I recreated them. I'll try setting it to disabled and see how it goes. Would this effect the restart button as well?
glennda Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 I've just been informed this is happening here! Nobody got anywhere?
ihaveaproblem Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 I've just been informed this is happening here! Nobody got anywhere? Still looking into it here. Struggling to find the time to investigate it fully at the moment. All gpo's seem correct and shouldn’t be causing this. I've noticed recently it seems to be doing it more often when i press 'restart' Maybe a MS update caused this?
ihaveaproblem Posted September 23, 2011 Posted September 23, 2011 Its Microsoft’s new way of NOT saving the environment (Or our sanity)
FN-GM Posted March 2, 2012 Posted March 2, 2012 Does anyone have a confirmed way to resolve this please?
PICNIC Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Yes we are, saw that mentioned in another thread about this issue, will have to contact them I think.
JJonas Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 Glad about that, couldnt remember if I had read it somewhere or just drempt about it.
jamesbrown Posted April 20, 2012 Author Posted April 20, 2012 We use securus too... Could you post on here the solution (if securus give you one). Cheers
PICNIC Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 According to this thread http://www.edugeek.net/forums/windows-7/70059-windows-7-logging-off-when-shut-down-pressed.html Upgrading the Securus client to Version 7.00.25 fixes the issue. I have emailed Securus support and will let you know if thats the case when they reply.
FN-GM Posted April 20, 2012 Posted April 20, 2012 The updated client i got works better but still isnt right. I have a case open and they are working on it. 1
PICNIC Posted April 23, 2012 Posted April 23, 2012 They are making us a custom client, we will see how that does.
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