synaesthesia Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 Or Grand Prix as they'd prefer we call it. What a farce - changing the rules midseason (which is against the rules). No, sorry - they changed the rules *mid-event* which is even more against the rules, and expect people to not moan? Look at the state of the grid - ok a shake up might not be a bad thing, but when you have vehicles built around a technology to get the most out of it, you're going to end up with some right shambles like the McLarens today. The FIA need shooting. Again. They are easily one of the most corrupt organisations around, possibly alongside UK government and Italian mafia. 2
ihaveaproblem Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 I really enjoyed it. The best gualifiying session i've seen for a VERY long time.
synaesthesia Posted July 9, 2011 Author Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) FIA have been umming and arring about blown diffusers this week, so on Thursday they banned them. Then they unbanned them, thinking it'll offer too much of a disadvantage to a few teams. They they rebanned them with some exceptions for Renault powered cars. As a result, cars that didn't rely at all on blown diffuser tech (Ferrari) are very, very strong. Cars that did (Red Bull, McLaren) are heavily affected. However, unlike the McLaren, the Red Bull wasn't designed entirely around that one feature. Whilst they are slower, they're not as heavily affected as McLaren, who built their entire car around a blown diffuser. Without that, they have absolutely no stability in the corners, and have been tweaking their car all weekend; effectively meaning they are using guesswork to set up a car from scratch. This has been painfully obvious in Quali where they have barely been able to make it into Q3. I absolutely hate rules being changed on the fly - and rules like this MUST be changed between seasons for teams to be able to adjust, otherwise you're just raining on the entire championship. Edited July 11, 2011 by vikpaw language!
synaesthesia Posted July 9, 2011 Author Posted July 9, 2011 Oh, and now if all the teams agree they're going to undo it all. Next race. Cheers FIA, you've just made our home GP 100% pointless.
AyatollahPies Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Here's hoping for a spot of rain and an entertaining race. Oh and ABV (Anyone but Vettel, as much as I admire him)
CyberNerd Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 they should just ban rules in F1, apart from the obvious 1st out of x laps wins. anything should go, including car mounted rocket launchers. it would be a much better spectator sport.
featured_spectre Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Well it always plays in to the hands of ferrari after a while...hence the nickname Ferrari International Assistance
Trapper Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 I was wondering what the scandal was. Thanks for the info.
AyatollahPies Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Bet Webber is mightily annoyed. "Keep the distance" Bloomin' team orders!
synaesthesia Posted July 10, 2011 Author Posted July 10, 2011 Team orders again, grrr. But what a ball-bustingly great day!
sted Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 Team orders again, grrr. But what a ball-bustingly great day! sorry you cant really blame them on teh last lap or 2 wanted to make sure both cars got home in 1 piece
Hightower Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 you're going to end up with some right shambles like the McLarens today. McLaren's downfall yesterday was the failing to turn the wheel nut the right way on JB's car, and failing to give LH enough juice to see him to the end of the race. This is school boy stuff and should simply not happen. The FIA might have messed things up but they only have themselves to blame for yesterdays result.
tommej Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 McLaren's downfall yesterday was the failing to turn the wheel nut the right way on JB's car, and failing to give LH enough juice to see him to the end of the race. This is school boy stuff and should simply not happen. The FIA might have messed things up but they only have themselves to blame for yesterdays result. They didn't have any idea about the fuel consumption of lewis' car because of the rule changes.
Hightower Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 They didn't have any idea about the fuel consumption of lewis' car because of the rule changes. Really? Because I could have sworn they took part in both the practices on Friday, the practice on Saturday, and the qualifying on Saturday - surely that will give them some understanding about fuel consumption levels?
tommej Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 Really? Because I could have sworn they took part in both the practices on Friday, the practice on Saturday, and the qualifying on Saturday - surely that will give them some understanding about fuel consumption levels? They hadn't lapped the car on a full load of fuel, and the weather at both practices and qualifying was terrible so they had no idea what to expect.
AJRussell Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 Well it help ferarri and who is in charge of the FIA?
laserblazer Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 What happened with Button's steward's enquiry into the wheel nut thing? I turned over to watch the Tour de France, only to see the driver of a French TV car take out some riders. Knocked one poor bod into a barbed-wire fence but he still managed to finish. He looked like an Egyptian mummy after they patched him up. Tour de France - French TV car causes shocking Tour crash - Yahoo! Eurosport
mthomas08 Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 Really? Because I could have sworn they took part in both the practices on Friday, the practice on Saturday, and the qualifying on Saturday - surely that will give them some understanding about fuel consumption levels? Mclarens didnt expect to be that much on pace because they barely got any "Dry" running. I think they expected a Valencia where they were a mile away from RBR/Ferrrari where as this weekend they could of scratched up a 3rd/4th. JB Managed because his performance in 1st stint wasnt there.
mattx Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 Ferrari must be laughing - yet again they 'buy' the Grand Prix so it works in their favor - they can't build a better car so end up having bribe the powers that be so it suits them. Quite pathetic - but something that's been on the cards a while now.
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