TechMonkey Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 I would like to point out that, as with all known mac virus's, they have to trick the end user into installing/running them in the first place! They cannot install/run by themselves. This one is using a modified install script to trick the end user into giving the virus permission to install as a super user in the startup folder. Traditionally, Vista's annoying security goes someway to remedying this, a Windows virus could do what they please without having to get the end user involved at all! A Windows virus can just run itself as a background task as administrator without the end user doing anything more than opening a zip file, inserting a disk or surfing to a website. That is a highly simplistic view. A huge majority of Windows virii need the user to be tricked into running them too. There are some exploits that allow code to be run without the user knowing but I am pretty sure one of those was found on OSX a couple of months ago and another murmurs of another couple are going around.
Messa Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 And all Mac users are the same? I've used Macs at home for years and never had an issue, doesn't mean I'm gonna trust any old rubbish Agreed.
tmcd35 Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 That is a highly simplistic view. A huge majority of Windows virii need the user to be tricked into running them too. There are some exploits that allow code to be run without the user knowing but I am pretty sure one of those was found on OSX a couple of months ago and another murmurs of another couple are going around. Possibly - But I'm not stupid enough to suggest that any piece of software is free from bugs, or any OS immune from attacks. What I will say is, for the time being, you are significantly less likely to have these problems with a Mac than a PC. If only because 85% of users are PC users and that's where the virus writers are aiming. What I was more trying to point out is that their are inherent security differences between Windows and Unix based OS's. Moving from Dos/Win9x to WinNT was one huge step in the right direction for M$, but it wasn't till Vista that Windows started to truely catch up in this area. 1
somabc Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Everybody knows the 'correct' way to pirate iwork is to download the trial and 'borrow' a licence code posted on the internet. Anyway there is nothing special about this attack, it requires you to willingly run the program and input your password. This method will work on any OS be it Linux/Unix/ Windows whatever. 1
tmcd35 Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Everybody knows the 'correct' way to pirate iwork is to download the trial and 'borrow' a licence code posted on the internet. . --- WARNING: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME --- (No, seriously, Don't) Actually the 'shop bought' version will not require a license code, so the correct way to pirate it is to wait for a friend to buy a copy and copy his disk
Messa Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 --- WARNING: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME --- (No, seriously, Don't) Actually the 'shop bought' version will not require a license code, so the correct way to pirate it is to wait for a friend to buy a copy and copy his disk Lmao Yeah! - You got a disc i can borrow?
somabc Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Apple do seem to put less emphasis on licensing their software. For example with Leopard or iWork you can give your CD to someone else and it will install without requiring any kind of licence key or activation.
GrumbleDook Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 That's coz most Mac users are honest and not lamer script kiddies using vista. :troll: Me, I use both (actually ... I use a few OSes!) MacBookPro running Leopard, Vista under Boot Camp, under Parallels I have a Vista test build, Leopard Server, Windows 7, Edubuntu, 98SE and XP. Each to their own ...
ChrisP Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 You know your showing your age when you call someone a lamer
somabc Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 That's coz most Mac users are honest and not lamer script kiddies using vista. :troll: Me, I use both (actually ... I use a few OSes!) MacBookPro running Leopard, Vista under Boot Camp, under Parallels I have a Vista test build, Leopard Server, Windows 7, Edubuntu, 98SE and XP. Each to their own ... You have Win 98SE! I had to configure Win NT4 yesterday, thank god we still have some old books on it!
SimpleSi Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 ... I use a few OSes!... 98SE .... You'll find life's better now you've come out I had to configure Win NT4 yesterday, thank god we still have some old books on it! Books! What sort of geek are you? :p regards Simon
GrumbleDook Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 I have a few old games that are just not happy on anything other than 98se.
markcuk Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 not a problem just do this to rid.for those who may of downloaded it 1) (open Terminal.app) 2) sudo su (enter password) 3) rm -r /System/Library/StartupItems/iWorkServices 4) rm /private/tmp/.iWorkServices 5) rm /usr/bin/iWorkServices 6) rm -r /Library/Receipts/iWorkServices.pkg 7) killall -9 iWorkServices interesting virus though maybe bill gates leaked it:eek:
Jacques Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 First I have to admit: I am totally in love with my MacBook Pro. If you did hapen to download this copy of iWork 09 - go to Macintosh Security Site - Security for Mac Platform MacOS X Security Firewalls Desktop Network Security secure mac os x Virus Encrpytion PGP macosx and get a free tool to remove the trojan. 1
torledo Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Apple do seem to put less emphasis on licensing their software. For example with Leopard or iWork you can give your CD to someone else and it will install without requiring any kind of licence key or activation. That's becasue the margins are in the hardware. The real value is in applications that add value to a basic OSX and apple hardware combination, so for example Apples Final Cut Studio are added cost, added value options - and those apps do require license keys. I see no reason why applications like iwork cost anything at all, unless they are really and willing to produce something to the level of Microsoft Office for Mac. Otherwise there's openoffice, i'm still a bit confused as to why anyone would want to download a pirate version of iworks......we seem to be able to collect a fair number of the trial CDs through no effort on our part. It's bizzare.
mac_shinobi Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 I use both so I don't really try to argue os x is better or windows is better yada yada - they both have good and bad points and either way I have a Mac Pro - yes I had the choice of a Dell XPS or custom building my own and putting a GX280 into it or w/e but I chose not to and went with an apple Mac Pro ( because I wanted the apple care ) yes Dell do 5 years or 4 or w/e but then I would only be stuck or limited to windows or linux , maybe free bsd but with the Mac Pro I dont have to worry about constantly upgrading my graphics card to play game x y and z and the Nvidia 8800 GT is plenty powerfull enough for me, plays doom 3 and the latest command and conquer series. I can use open office on either platform ( os x or windows ). If I went with a PC and wanted an aluminum case it would mean paying out over £100 where as apple give you a nice one with the mac pro - sure its nice to have the logo on them but that doesn't really bother me too much. I dont have a use or need for iWork and I have everything installed that I need Two words - Personal Preference !!!
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