tayyab12 Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 Hi Guys back with another issue with the lovely 24h2 update. We use radius to authenticate our wireless which has been working fine with 23h2. however when ive imaged a machine to 24h2 just stops working. says cant connect to network. checked NPS logs and event viewer nothing is appearing, checked my aruba logs nothing there either. ive had a google and seen something about changing the order of ECC Curve which i have done but not fixed anything. Everything is working fine rn with 23h2 no issues in general but 24h2 is just something special. i literally waited for a while so all the bugs could get sorted but guess ms have done it again. any help would be appreciated guys
psydii Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 PEAP or EAP? PEAP (account/password based auth) isn't supported by Win11 anymore, is it possible you had a work-around in place that has stopped working with the upgrade? We had to (finally, nearly 20 years after I first flirted with the idea) move to EAP-TLS (client/user certificate based auth) just last year to support Win 11 without forcing it to rollback the security settings that are the whole point of the Win10/11 demarcation.
mbl Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 I think I had the same issue but I think I had to set a GPO to Disable Turn On Virtualization Based Security and this resolved it Computer Configuration\Administrative Template\System/Device Guard
DrCheese Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 As the posters above say, this will be VBS doing it. You'll need to move away from PEAP and swap to PKI/certificate based authentication. You can turn off VBS to get you going now, but I wouldn't do that long term as it defeats the point in moving to Windows 11.
tayyab12 Posted June 2, 2025 Author Posted June 2, 2025 Right we do use computer based authentication anyway. is it the case of changing the gpo? nps is set to use eap-tls the certificates there. do i need to change gpo peap setting? what would i change it too.
tayyab12 Posted June 2, 2025 Author Posted June 2, 2025 Yep turning VBS off fixed it however with EAP-TLS ready to go. am i to just turn on certificate based authentication on the gpo and technically should just work?
psydii Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 (edited) The work-around I refereed to is indeed disabling VBS. You should move Heaven and Earth to avoid turning off VBS - its a pretty fundamental part of Win11 security and its absence will hold you back with regard to modern security best practice - and could conceivably put you out of compliance with your Cyber Insurance policy. If your computers each have a valid certificate from your Enterprise CA, then that should work. FWIW we found out the hard way that a load of our computers for some reason* didn't have a valid certificate, and the only way to get them back on the network was to hard-wire them to pick up a recovery GPO! So do check before pushing over the authentication method! I'd recommend doing small batches of machines and checking the CA has a record of them having a valid certificate. Also until you are confident things are going well, might be worth checking a sample of each batch before applying the change to confirm they also believe they have a valid certificate. * probably due to some bad practice (aka "received wisdom" on how to do windows admin) by a tech several years ago that broke Windows on those machines just enough to cause it to stop working - on closer inspection, lots of little things were also broken with the same root cause, so after a wipe-reload of the affected machines, we're in a better place. Edited June 2, 2025 by psydii
tayyab12 Posted June 2, 2025 Author Posted June 2, 2025 Yes i have the certificates within the trusted root certification authorities pushed out via gpo however they need to be in the personal store on the devices. i know there isnt a gpo to import certificates into the personal store but most likely a script. How did you do it?
DrCheese Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 You want to be looking at autoenrollment policies on your PKI, rather than any script https://www.windows-noob.com/forums/topic/16283-how-can-i-configure-pki-in-a-lab-on-windows-server-2016-part-8/ (The whole 8 page guide is really useful for PKI stuff/pushing certs out) 1
tayyab12 Posted June 3, 2025 Author Posted June 3, 2025 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgAjEuCAFzE&ab_channel=OsborneProTV Fixed. Works like a charm now. Guy in the video straight to the point and was only missing a few things.
CHiLL Posted June 4, 2025 Posted June 4, 2025 That's the guide I followed when I implemented EAP-TLS last year. What did you find he was missing?
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