Joanne Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 OK so I've got a 2008 R2 server that I want to retire. It was the primary domain controller and I have set up a new server which has all of the roles installed and I have transferred FSMO roles to. HOWEVER - if the old server is off.... things sloooooooow right down. I mean, it was switched off during the holidays by the UPS and it messed things up for some people. I haven't demoted it yet, so it is probably still acting as a DNS server. I could use a checklist of things I need to check before I demote it. Things I need to check before I switch it off. I should be transferring the last of the staff home drives in a couple of weeks. Any help much appreciated!
ITGuyWestMidlands Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 Check your DHCP scopes that it isn't being set as the primary DNS server for your clients Make sure servers and other devices with a static IP are updated also. Check your web filter as it may point to a single server for user authentication. 1
Joanne Posted April 9, 2018 Author Posted April 9, 2018 DHCP is dishing out new server IP as DNS. I've gone through most statics.... I'll triple check them all though!
computer_expert Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 Check logon scripts, go though GPOs and make sure you haven't got anything hardcoded (software deployment MSIs/SW deployment scripts etc) pointing towards the old server. 1
DannyG555 Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 After demotion I usually like to comb through DNS just to ensure there aren't any records that still point to the old server as being a domain controller (SRV records). 1
HPlum78 Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 I would look at what network traffic is coming into the DC you can then determine what might be the cause of the slow down. This may help:- https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/askpfeplat/2013/12/15/domain-and-dc-migrations-how-to-monitor-ldap-kerberos-and-ntlm-traffic-to-your-domain-controllers/ 1
HPlum78 Posted April 9, 2018 Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) Oh and another thought on this, you can edit the registry and stop netlogon service registering the srv records for certain services so you can try to understand what is going on HKLM:\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netlogon\Parameters create a new multi string with the name DnsAvoidRegisterRecords and then you can add the following value(s):- Dc Pdc Gc GcAtSite GenericGc GenericGcAtSite GcIpAddress Kdc KdcAtSite Ldap LdapAtSite LdapIpAddress Rfc1510Kdc Rfc1510KdcAtSite Rfc1510UdpKdc Rfc1510Kpwd Rfc1510UdpKpwd you can see that this worked by restarting the netlogon service on the DC in question and checking DNS to see if the SRV records have been removed. You may find that as you do this the slowness that you are experiencing starts when you add certain keys. Edited April 9, 2018 by HPlum78
itwasntme Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 if the old server is off.... things sloooooooow right down. I know it can be hard to narrow things down sometimes, but could you be more specific? What roles/features are still installed/enabled/in use on the server? Any chance that it is still providing dns forwarding for your new DC?
Joanne Posted April 11, 2018 Author Posted April 11, 2018 Yeah it is for sure the DNS. It is still a domain controller, so has DNS and ADDS. I'm assuming I can switch all this off, but it's file server role will remain in tact?
itwasntme Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Ok so before powering the server off (deleting the VM/wiping the physical tin or whatever other plans you have for the 'box') for good, better to demote (dcpromo) the server to a member server and safely remove the other roles too, first. Double check that your new DC is not using the old DC for DNS forwarding, and doubly check that the new DC (and any other servers for that matter) are not using your OLD DC for dns lookups. 1
andyturpie Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 This may help Joanne https://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/50925.active-directory-checklist-for-decommissioning-a-domain-controller.aspx 1
Joanne Posted April 11, 2018 Author Posted April 11, 2018 Thanks everyone, this is really helpful. It's probably not going to happen for a couple of weeks yet, but the more info I have now the better!
andyturpie Posted April 11, 2018 Posted April 11, 2018 Yeah it is for sure the DNS. It is still a domain controller, so has DNS and ADDS. I'm assuming I can switch all this off, but it's file server role will remain in tact? I have never been it this situation, but I am thinking you just switch off each of the unnecessary services and demote and as long as you don't rename the server or move your shares around the place then file server role will continue... Good Luck!
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