m1ddy Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 Looks like MSI are breaking in to the sub laptop area. From the article the specs seem to be.... 1.6ghz Intel Atom CPU 1GB RAM SSD 10" Screen XP And wait for it.....£185! Full article : Computer Shopper: News: The stunning laptop that undercuts the Eee PC 1
Ric_ Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 It does look nice in hte pictures and the size sounds like it would be perfect for me... I've only held off geeting an eeePC becaus of the 7" screen. I wouldn't want one with Windows on though
Domino Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 ahem, they say they'll sell for "about $370", which sure as much converts into 180squid. doesn't mean we'll get it for that price though...... and as ric has said, these little things would be much happier with linux
torledo Posted April 3, 2008 Posted April 3, 2008 What i want to know is what is the difference between a 1.6ghz Atom processor and 1.2ghz Core solo or duo ULV processor.... Can one processor not cover both the 8.9inch ultraportables like the eee and the up to 12.1 inch ultraportables that at the moment use the ULV. Is it more than Intel just forcing the Atom line on manufacturers because they've rolled out this Atom platform and all the marketing hype.
CyberNerd Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 Interesting article here: Microsoft extends XP through 2010 for ultra-low-cost laptops | The Industry Standard MS are extending sales of XP to 2010 to accommodate these devices
Ric_ Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 @Torledo: AFAIK the Atom is simply the new name for the ULV processors using the 45nm fabrication process. See Intel Atom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for a little more info.
torledo Posted April 4, 2008 Posted April 4, 2008 @Torledo: AFAIK the Atom is simply the new name for the ULV processors using the 45nm fabrication process. See Intel Atom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for a little more info. I don't think it is Ric, i've done a little digging trying to look beyond the plethora of intel codenames. It appears the ULV and LV range is to continue with the new penryn 45nm core 2 duo designs. They plan on releasing a 1.4ghz ULV that will draw less power than previous ULV's while designed to work with the forthcoming montevina chipset and have a faster FSB. I suspect Atom doesn't have enough juice for the performance ultraportable market. Hence they need single and dual core ULV's for machines like the dell D430. Asus and nokia have created two new classifications of computer, and i think Atom is there specifically for laptops like the eee and MIDs like the N800. Interestingly the wikipedia article suggests that Atom won't go down into the smartphone market, but i think the plan is take on ARM in that category eventually. In the market it targets the biggest think for Atom to do is very low power consumption with fanless operation and loooong battery life. One of the execs at ARM basically said Intel have talked about Atom processor power consumption, but they won't talk about chipset power envelope as that draws power aswell. Maybe ARM have got both those nailed whereas intel haven't as of yet with the atom design.
dave.81 Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 The more competition the better it'll be for everyone Looks very promising though at those figures.
plexer Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 Looks like a lovely little machine will be interesting to see how it performs but it would also make a lot of sense as a vle web platform access device perfect for our MIS system. Ben
Ric_ Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 (edited) From a little more reading, the Atom supports the full Core instruction set but is a new architecture of processor. Benchmarks seem to put the 1.6GHz Atom at about the same processing power as a 900MHz Celeron-D which isn't fantastically fast but is sufficient for what it is intended to do. Power management is meant to be excellent too. Incidentally, ZDNet reports that the eeePC will start shipping with Atom processors in May (see Asus Eee to get Intel's Atom processor - ZDNet.co.uk ). Edited April 7, 2008 by Ric_ extras
gshaw Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 Looks very tasty, screen being the major difference - have to wonder how they're gonna manage it as I thought the screen was the major cost component? Just hope the price doesn't shoot up as it usually does after we get excited by doing a $$$ to £££ conversion!
torledo Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 From a little more reading, the Atom supports the full Core instruction set but is a new architecture of processor. Benchmarks seem to put the 1.6GHz Atom at about the same processing power as a 900MHz Celeron-D which isn't fantastically fast but is sufficient for what it is intended to do. Power management is meant to be excellent too. Incidentally, ZDNet reports that the eeePC will start shipping with Atom processors in May (see Asus Eee to get Intel's Atom processor - ZDNet.co.uk ). That's very interesting news regarding the eee. The atom platform should improve the battery life....which i think is poor for an ultraportablee atm. First i've heard about eee continuing to provide a linux os. The higher specced follow up models to the 8gb 900 sound like fantastic buys. Hopefully long battery life, 8.9 inch led screen and 16gb SSD...if it comes in at 350 quid that would be a pretty impressive package. Near unbeatable....especially if HP stick with the miniscule 6.9inch with their mini notebook.
CyberNerd Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 if it comes in at 350 quid that would be a pretty impressive package. The initial lure of the eeepc was that it is a fully functional laptop for under £200. with the HP 2133 linux starting 'around' £250ex and increasing costs of the eeepc these mini-pcs start to loose their appeal for schools compared to full-sized machines. Admittedly still a great geek-toy though
torledo Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 The initial lure of the eeepc was that it is a fully functional laptop for under £200. with the HP 2133 linux starting 'around' £250ex and increasing costs of the eeepc these mini-pcs start to loose their appeal for schools compared to full-sized machines. Admittedly still a great geek-toy though I am thinking about it's more from a geektoy angle....although i think toy is a little unfair. The thing about the proposed announcements is how close they take these machines to the ULV based machines such as the portege R200 and the baby vaio. They have greater portability, lighter weight and with atom only marginally worse perfomance and in some cases betterperformance wth an optimized OS. Also, what kind of premiums are sony and ibm putting on 32gig SSD offerings for their ultraportables ? In all cases more than the entire cost of the eee 900 with 16gig flash disk...whatever the price turns out to be. Great value whichever way you look at it.
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