DPM 2012 Licensing on EES-OVS

[SteveM555]

Hello,

 

We're looking at getting Data Protection Manager 2012 to manage backups, have a few questions if someone can help?

 

 

1. We've been told we require a Client License for each machine we have in a data protection plan. e.g. 10 servers or PCs, 10 licenses. Could someone confirm please?
   
2. If we're backing up HyperV Virtual Machines, do we need 1 license per VM or 1 per VM Host?
   
3. We have also been told that the Management License is per user??? (e.g. 3 technicians using it, 3 licenses are required) - I thought this was just 1 for the server install?
   

 

Thanks!

[CAWJames]

The newer SCCM suite is 1 licence per managed node, in either standard or datacenter. With the only choice being amount of VM's, so if it is a host full of VM's go DC, if it a server that needs backing up with no VM's, go standard. and that is all. It was all simplified in the 2012 versions.

 

I will add, I THINK

[Norphy]

DPM is part of the System Center Suite. Buy DPM, buy the whole thing including SCCM and SCOM.

 

You will require a System Center license per server that you're backing up. If you're backing up virtual hosts which have more than 2 VMs, you will need a System Center Datacenter license per virtual host. Any physical machines which don't have VMs on can use a Standard license. The license model is similar to the Windows 2012 one.

 

Knowing Microsoft, this will probably change once System Center 2016 is released.

 

With that out of the way, can I offer an opinion regarding DPM? I wouldn't use it. I had it in place in my last job and ended up thoroughly regretting it. It was a wholly unreliable piece of rubbish. We ended up spending £30k on ArcServe UDP which was infinitely better.

Edited June 10, 2016 by Norphy

[CAWJames]

see https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/Licensing/product-licensing/system-center-2012-r2.aspx

 

The only bit they mention, is if you need to manage non-server OS's then you need an ML, BUT you get those in the Standard CAL pack if you get that with OVS-EES

 

We just purchase per managed server, as its cheap as chips on OVS-EES

 

Thanks

 

James

[CAWJames]

We use DPM, with tape and disk on site, then we have a secondary off site over VPN that transfers over bit by bit, giving us very effective and cheap DR Never had a problem, that hasn't been caused by us in the first place!

[SteveM555]

Thanks for the info. Very helpful

 

As I understand it now,

 

 

• We do not need the Client ML's if we are just backing up MS Servers.
  
• We need a Management License per Server. If we are backing up VMs on a VM host, we need the Datacenter Management Licenses, else the Standard Management License for anything else.
  

 

Am I correct in still thinking that we need a SQL license for the installation of DPM? I saw this on the page: "No additional licenses are needed for management servers or SQL Server technology." but is that just referring to backing up SQL services? and not the actual DPM backend.

 

Thanks,

[CAWJames]

SQL comes with it. A full standard copy, but you can only use it for SCCM.

 

No ML's needed if server only,

 

1 standard per managed server, unless it hosts more than 2 VM's, in which case DC.

 

James

[Norphy]

Am I correct in still thinking that we need a SQL license for the installation of DPM? I saw this on the page: "No additional licenses are needed for management servers or SQL Server technology." but is that just referring to backing up SQL services? and not the actual DPM backend.

 

IIRC you don't need to pay for the individual agents (SQL, Exchange etc) like you do with other backup products. The cost of a SQL Server Standard license for System Center components is included in the System Center license.

 

A full standard copy, but you can only use it for SCCM.

 

A SQL license comes with System Center but you can use it for any System Center component, not just SCCM. As long as you don't use it for anything else, you're fine.

[CAWJames]

Sorry meant System Center, not just SCCM my bad, its just the component I use the most and used to just typing SCCM

[SteveM555]

IIRC you don't need to pay for the individual agents (SQL, Exchange etc) like you do with other backup products. The cost of a SQL Server Standard license for System Center components is included in the System Center license.

 

A SQL license comes with System Center but you can use it for any System Center component, not just SCCM. As long as you don't use it for anything else, you're fine.

 

Great! Thank you.