Michael Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 You can't install 10240, upgrade to 10586 and then run Sysprep. It's not a supported or allowable scenario, but in saying that, it might be possible with Redstone. Personally I would always re-build from scratch - it takes time, but the results are better.
Arthur Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 it might be possible with Redstone. Nope. For the same reason.
dblight Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 Seems to have broke the custom lock screen background.
mullet_man Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 You can't install 10240, upgrade to 10586 and then run Sysprep. It's not a supported or allowable scenario, but in saying that, it might be possible with Redstone. Personally I would always re-build from scratch - it takes time, but the results are better. Yeah I'll re-build them, like I said our images aren't big so won't take me long to redo them. Really hoping that first login is speedier, as our older devices could be upgraded to 10 as well if that's the case.
alfatec Posted May 19, 2016 Author Posted May 19, 2016 dblight - did you upgrade from 1511 to ann update or fresh build?
dblight Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 dblight - did you upgrade from 1511 to ann update or fresh build? It was an upgrade from the insider program. Are the ISO's available for clean build?
Arthur Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 Wouldn't it be nice if MS listened to our feedback and stripped out the junk from the Anniversary Edition Education image by default when it gets released... I know wishful thinking There should be at least five fewer apps in the Anniversary Edition... www.neowin.net/news/like-seeing-promoted-apps-in-the-start-menu-youll-love-the-windows-10-anniversary-update
gshaw Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) There should be at least five fewer apps in the Anniversary Edition... www.neowin.net/news/like-seeing-promoted-apps-in-the-start-menu-youll-love-the-windows-10-anniversary-update Fewer isn't good enough for business and education. The correct answer is none... nada... zero. Having gone to the effort of making a whole separate SKU and ISO for education how long would it take them to give a out-of-box clean base without resorting to LTSB? Back to Powershell and DISM it is then *sigh* Edited May 19, 2016 by gshaw 1
alfatec Posted May 19, 2016 Author Posted May 19, 2016 They have just released build 14342 and will be making the iso's available soon. They released this build to the slow ring so it can't be that far off the final build candidate.
Winner Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) We've just tried Windows 10 Pro insider build 14332 on a 6 year old Core i3 with a 2.5" 7200rpm hard drive. Once joined to the domain first logon is a massive improvement over 1511. The "Preparing your desktop" stage of the logon (after group policy processing) took 14 seconds on this system. This was with all default universal apps removed apart from the calculator and store and using a local profile (Edge, Cortana, and other universal apps that cannot be removed were left enabled i.e. not blocked with AppLocker). On this test system with 1511 the "Preparing your desktop" stage would have taken well over a minute. If only this was going to be released to VLSC in mid-July! I'm guessing it will be more like mid-August until we can get our hands on it. Edited May 19, 2016 by Winner 1
Asgard Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) . If only this was going to be released to VLSC in mid-July! I'm guessing it will be more like mid-August until we can get our hands on it. This is Microsoft all over. Take out the home and maybe business users. I'd assume most of us do our big refresh over the summer? I've seen a fair few people on here over the last 12 months saying they are waiting until this summer to roll it out - now MS drop a big update . Excellent timing MS. Oh and Server 2016/SCCM 2016.............. Should call it 17 by the time they decide to release it ha Edited May 19, 2016 by Asgard
Blue_Cookeh Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 This is Microsoft all over. Take out the home and maybe business users. I'd assume most of us do our big refresh over the summer? I've seen a fair few people on here over the last 12 months saying they are waiting until this summer to roll it out - now MS drop a big update . Excellent timing MS. Oh and Server 2016/SCCM 2016.............. Should call it 17 by the time they decide to release it ha AFAIK you should be using SCCM to manage "ring" updates, rather than rolling out whole new images?
Asgard Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) Maybe good sir, maybe We have two options - 1. new build which will probably take a day or two and by some of the comments on the forums that seems to be the general consensus. 2. Sccm 2016. We restructured our AD with one eye on our new MAT we have - essentially started a fresh AD setup for the Trust and we took the decision to wait for 2016 SCCM and go clean from there for management and deployment trust wide. We have just short of 2000PCs over the summer on our main site means we will probably just roll with our current Win10 Enterprise build and look to update a few months later, but it would of been helpful to have the update earlier. Hopefully the updates won't destroy our work of getting rid of the bloatware. Hahahahaha Edited May 19, 2016 by Asgard
timbo343 Posted May 21, 2016 Posted May 21, 2016 well, ive just looked at the Anniversary update and i can honestly say im not impressed at all! Ive got hold of the 14332 iso for Enterprise and on a clean install, there's more crap on the start menu and it takes longer to login at first login, this is without using get-appxpackage or DISM. What i have found is the packagenames have all changed so it means editing the DISM strings so they are all correct. What have they done!?! I wish they did an LTSB version that got updates. Surely this would be education / enterprise? Why can't they leave the crapware out of these versions and leave it in for the Home and the new Pro version they have released!?
ColinP Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Are there going to be any fixes to LTSB? its by far the best edition
Blue_Cookeh Posted May 23, 2016 Posted May 23, 2016 Are there going to be any fixes to LTSB? its by far the best edition Rarely. It isn't designed for desktop use, it's meant for ATMs, factory machines etc.
timbo343 Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 News on Anniversary update 14352 coming out Windows 10 Insider Preview build 14352 marks countdown to summer launch date | ZDNet and https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/05/26/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-14352/
timbo343 Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 Something new in education 14342.. take a test and paid wifi.
Arthur Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 Windows 10 Anniversary Update "available 2 August", according to Microsoft News Center As Windows Central spotted, a press release appeared today on the Microsoft News Center (since removed, but visible here), with the title: "Microsoft announces Windows 10 anniversary update available Aug. 2" - but the rest of the announcement is missing. 3
dhoward_westexetc Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 Does anyone know if the Windows ADK (which includes the ICD) for the anniversary update is available at all? I know it's needed to enable shared PC mode for local AD-joined Win 10 1607 systems, was hoping to test this that's all.
mullet_man Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 Windows 10 Anniversary Update "available 2 August", according to Microsoft News Center That's about 2 weeks into the holidays, hopefully the ISOs will be available on that day and we can all start our new builds.
FragglePete Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 That's about 2 weeks into the holidays, hopefully the ISOs will be available on that day and we can all start our new builds. This has got me nervous as I really would like to start deploying the newer update at the start of the hols. In fairness though, we've got it down to about two weeks to get almost everything rebuilt so in theory we should be able to do it but would be happier if we had our hands on it beforehand. Pete
alfatec Posted June 29, 2016 Author Posted June 29, 2016 The Windows 10 Anniversary Update is officially coming August 2 - here's what's in it Latest update from Neowin. Read bit about classroom improvements. Increased Win 10 speed, first login time in avg 26 secs. We will see!!!
mullet_man Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 The Windows 10 Anniversary Update is officially coming August 2 - here's what's in it Latest update from Neowin. Read bit about classroom improvements. Increased Win 10 speed, first login time in avg 26 secs. We will see!!! That's only when using this new Shared PC setup, and not connected to a normal AD environment. Am not holding my breath as the preview build I tested didn't seem any quicker.
mullet_man Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 This has got me nervous as I really would like to start deploying the newer update at the start of the hols. In fairness though, we've got it down to about two weeks to get almost everything rebuilt so in theory we should be able to do it but would be happier if we had our hands on it beforehand. Pete Yeah it would have been nice to have it sooner, might be good to get the other jobs done first and then do the reimage later in the holidays.
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