suite ethernet access points

[chalkwellstu]

:mad:ok really pi$$ed off:mad:. just ordered 15 d/tops for the suite to beef it up a bit. already checked power points and network points. got enough. BUT .... just, by chance had to unscrew one of the network points to check all was ok as had a box not connecting for no apparent reason and what did i find? the point next to it labelled spare isn't wired in! cable is there but little black boxy thing on the end that fits into the wall plate.

 

ARRRRRGGGGHHHH.

 

ok so where do i get the little black cable ends from and how do i know whether i am cat5e or not and where can i find instructions on how to wire them up?

 

your help my fellow geekers would be much appreciated.

 

Stu.

[Domino]

have a look through here and see if any match your outlets

http://www.cablemonkey.co.uk/acatalog/Modular_Outlets.html

 

where do the existing cables go back to? if you can have a look at the back of the patch panel you should be able to see how they're wired.

 

EDIT: http://www.cablemonkey.co.uk/acatalog/tools.html a punchdown tool as shown here is a good idea too, as its a lot more reliable than doing it by hand, or with any other tool...

[plexer]

I'd get the cable company that installed the damn things back in.

 

Totally ludicrous situation to be in.

 

Ben

[Domino]

you'll probably find the school payed per point, and they put in the required amount of points, just with a dual headed outlet plate on....

[plexer]

Yeah but the cable is there.

 

So the hardest part was done.

 

Ben

[chalkwellstu]

you'll probably find the school payed per point, and they put in the required amount of points, just with a dual headed outlet plate on....

 

yeah just been whingeing at the HT and he reckons that the suite was cabled before he came here, so over 10 years ago. i'll have the plate off of one and see what i can suss from that. I would assume that its cat5e due to the age but i wouldn;t know one from a cat hair!!

[chalkwellstu]

the other thing is how do i know if they are hooked up at the other end?

[DMcCoy]

yeah just been whingeing at the HT and he reckons that the suite was cabled before he came here, so over 10 years ago. i'll have the plate off of one and see what i can suss from that. I would assume that its cat5e due to the age but i wouldn;t know one from a cat hair!!

 

The secrets of cable identification!

 

1) Is it round? If yes, then its probably cat 5,5e and if its a bit thicker 6

2) Read what it says on the cable

 

Most cables will have manufacturer and category stated quite clearly along the length of the cable

[Domino]

the other thing is how do i know if they are hooked up at the other end?

 

hmm, are the points not numbered? but you know where the other points go back to the switch right? just see if you've got twice as many spaces in your patch panel as used network points

[chalkwellstu]

hmm, are the points not numbered? but you know where the other points go back to the switch right? just see if you've got twice as many spaces in your patch panel as used network points

 

Thanks Doc looks like they might be cat5 based on your advice.

 

Domino: guess what they are numbered at wall outlet but not in the patch panel . it appears on looking that there are more filled ports in the switched than there are active ports in the school but .....

[Domino]

Trial and error it is then!

 

have you got a cat5 cable tester? you can normally pick them up quite cheap, with seperate send and receive units.

[chalkwellstu]

Trial and error it is then!

 

have you got a cat5 cable tester? you can normally pick them up quite cheap, with seperate send and receive units.

 

Nope looks like i'm in the market now. another baptism of fire for me, Networking! HA Ha

[Domino]

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/10728/Electrical/Data-Networking/Tools/Cat-5E-Tester#

[chalkwellstu]

Thanks D. appreciate your help on this one. isnt it lovely when you thin k you had something sussed and then ...... WHAM

 

BTW just went into a yr6 class sorting another IWB and the teacher was absolutley shredding one of the lads. turned out he had got hold of one of the girls 'Aliens' (those things that come in eggs?! and chucked it up at the ceiling, thought it was funny so got hold of a load more from her mates (all while they were getting changed back from P.E.) and lobbed them up thier as well. Looked quite surreal looking at around a dozen aliens all dangling from the ceiling.

[plexer]

I have one of these:

 

http://www.openxtra.co.uk/products/cable-testers/network/lanscaper/prodNT750.html

 

Ben

[Domino]

Plexer, that kit looks really good, would you recommend it?

 

been trying to get one of those REAL network testers for a while, but the boss won't go for it. Bum.

 

Chalkwellstu, I'd see if you can get yourself taken off support for a day or two and go round and number, and document, all your ports and cabling. Its a boring, awful job but it doesn't half make it easier in the long run.

[chalkwellstu]

Plexer, that kit looks really good, would you recommend it?

 

been trying to get one of those REAL network testers for a while, but the boss won't go for it. Bum.

 

Chalkwellstu, I'd see if you can get yourself taken off support for a day or two and go round and number, and document, all your ports and cabling. Its a boring, awful job but it doesn't half make it easier in the long run.

 

Yeah i know, think your right tho. Could end up here in half term. i was hoping to install ex2k3 that week but as i dont know how to do that either

anyway, can only do one thing at a time.

[Ric_]

@Domino: The Validator is better http://cybera.sourceforge.net/site/co/hPage.html

 

Oliis Solutions can sort you out a decent price (speak to Nathan). They aren't cheap but they are considerably cheaper than a Fluke equivalent. Buy a tone tool too and you won't need anything else.