Chrisbf1 Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) so Windows 10 is going to be a pain to image without an ees agreement. I thought upgrade one machine , take an image and then push that image out to others. But no you need to upgrade each machine to Windows 10 so that it can pick up its free windows 10 code. So much for supporting customers Microsoft essentially an inplace install I get they need to protect revenue but there must b another way that is a bit quicker! Edited August 3, 2015 by Chrisbf1
jmak Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 I think the way round this is to buy one perpetual licence which then gives you re-imaging rights for matching levels of windows (ie win 7 or 8 pro to win 10 pro). For schools agreements this is usually <£40 as a one off - annoying, but bearable, unlike in place upgrades for 300 PCs. What I haven't found an answer to is how this will work over the free year is up. If I re-image with a volume licence after that period, will it still activate?
Arthur Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 What I haven't found an answer to is how this will work over the free year is up. The free upgrade offer doesn't cover the Enterprise edition. If I re-image with a volume licence after that period, will it still activate? Yes, because you would be using KMS or MAK-based activation with your volume licenses. 1
jmak Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) The free upgrade offer doesn't cover the Enterprise edition. Yes, because you would be using KMS or MAK-based activation with your volume licenses. I'm only employed term time, so have been reading here rather than playing with the school network, so have only just looked at our VLSC in response to what I've read here today. Windows 10 doesn't appear, but I think that's probably because I bought the win 7 and 8 licences through County before I started buying direct from a reseller. (All of the Office and Server licences with software assurance appear correctly, but no OS licences at all.) Presumably they (County) will have win 10 and the MAKs in their VLSC, which I will be entitled to use? If not, I guess I'll be doing what I suggested above and buying a copy... Edit: referring to pro editions in my case Edited August 3, 2015 by jmak
jmak Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 So.... I don't have win 10 in my VLSC yet, but I want to build an image ready to deploy at the beginning of term (just for a new set of 30 laptops, so if it doesn't work out I can quickly revert to a known working win 8.1 image). If I clean install 8.1pro from my legit VL disk, then in place upgrade, then clean install Win 10 pro with an iso downloaded from the MS site, will it: 1) Work? 2) Be possible to activate with my MAK once I get hold of it? Thanks
jmak Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 As I find out more, I'm getting more confused: I've spoken to my re-seller now they're telling me that to remain correctly licenced, the only approach is as @Chrisbf1 described above. They say that my VL Education Perpetual Win 7 & 8 Pro machines can only be updated to Win 10 Pro by an in place upgrade and the licence then becomes essentially like a consumer licence, i.e. tied to the machine. I thought that I would then be able to use a VL disk to image them, but apparently that's no longer allowed. The Microsoft re-imaging rights briefing hasn't been updated to reflect this yet - and doesn't mention Windows 10 at all. So apologies to @Chrisbf1 - I assumed that licensing would be essentially the same as previous versions of Windows. @Arthur: I've always seen you as the guru of Windows licensing - can you point me towards any official documentation on upgrade and re-imaging rights specifically for Windows 10? Not casting aspersions in any direction, but from other threads on here it seems that resellers have been given mixed messages too and I want to check before I spend money unnecessarily. Thanks all
jmak Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 Just to complete this thread in case it's stumbled upon in the future, I spoke to Microsoft volume licencing this morning and have been told that I definitely can use a volume licence edition of win 10 pro to re-image PCs originally licenced with a windows 7 pro volume edition.
Arthur Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 Just to complete this thread in case it's stumbled upon in the future, I spoke to Microsoft volume licensing this morning and have been told that I definitely can use a volume licence edition of win 10 pro to re-image PCs originally licenced with a windows 7 pro volume edition. That's good to know. I came across Microsoft's new Product Terms document and that doesn't seem to suggest anything major has changed regarding imaging rights and Windows 10. Product Terms - 1st August 2015 (Download) See also: Windows 10 Licensing Logic « TechNet UK Blog / Reimaging Windows 10
MartinT Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 The VL site has the W10 ISO images and licence keys and everything deploys either manually or via MDT. I've tested it all and it works. 1
jmak Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 The VL site has the W10 ISO images and licence keys and everything deploys either manually or via MDT. I've tested it all and it works. Still building my image, so good to know that mdt is working - I thought I'd have to wait for the update. I was expecting it to work - it's no different to any other upgrade, but wanted to ensure that we remained correctly licenced. Can't afford to get it wrong at work!
MartinT Posted August 8, 2015 Posted August 8, 2015 You do need MDT 2013 Update 1, either the Preview or the final version, which has not yet been released.
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