BKGarry Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Hello All, We have had an incident here, where a student has made a hotmail.com account (and yes it is hotmail.com on the email address, weird) and sent an email with an image to a member of staff, which is offensive. The issue is the email was sent at around 9pm at night, so I have not been able to do a trace here on our Filtering system. I have emailed the outlook.com abuse account but have only received an automated email back. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best way to try and find out whose this email account is. They have not used their school account as a separate account so that doesn't help to track them. Thank you all in advance,
BKGarry Posted January 22, 2014 Author Posted January 22, 2014 not that I can see, here is the headers (which teachers email address removed) Received: from DBXPR04MB319.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.232.24) by AMSPR04MB310.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.242.107.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.851.11 via Mailbox Transport; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:32:56 +0000 Received: from DBXPR04CA007.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.191.155) by DBXPR04MB319.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.232.24) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.851.15; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:32:55 +0000 Received: from AM1FFO11FD055.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7e00::100) by DBXPR04CA007.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:9800::27) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.851.11 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:32:54 +0000 Received: from emea01-am1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (157.56.112.28) by AM1FFO11FD055.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.174.65.74) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.847.12 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:32:52 +0000 Received: from HKNPR03CA012.apcprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.16.22) by HKNPR03MB403.apcprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.35.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.851.15; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:32:44 +0000 Received: from DB3FFO11FD010.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7e04::117) by HKNPR03CA012.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:a000::22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.851.11 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:32:43 +0000 Received: from col0-omc2-s1.col0.hotmail.com (65.55.34.75) by DB3FFO11FD010.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.47.216.166) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 15.0.847.12 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:32:42 +0000 Received: from COL128-W36 ([65.55.34.73]) by col0-omc2-s1.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:32:41 -0800 X-TMN: [Y8QHG/Z91KBjZYSGPKNf8OofMLQo6EuQ] X-Originating-Email: [[email protected]] Message-ID: Return-Path: [email protected] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_5c54a73d-b3a8-400f-bbb0-5c089bda1694_" From: Mr Jordan is a sheep shagger To: "%TEACHERS EMAIL%@ntc.kent.sch.uk" <%TEACHERS EMAIL%@ntc.kent.sch.uk> Subject: Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:32:41 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2014 21:32:41.0829 (UTC) FILETIME=[263FE150:01CF1627] X-EOPAttributedMessage: 1 X-Matching-Connectors: 130347271627341080;(d8fcf337-55d8-4128-5d8c-08d0d6cd5b43,91b4c244-d4ec-4e82-4cf7-08cfe15df2fa);() X-Forefront-Antispam-Report-Untrusted: CIP:65.55.34.75;CTRY:US;IPV:CAL;IPV:NLI;EFV:NLI;SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019001)(6009001)(619001)(189002)(199002)(71186001)(85306002)(87266001)(46316001)(82202001)(77806003)(81686001)(74876001)(87936001)(83072002)(84326002)(5406001)(47446002)(74502001)(512934002)(74366001)(15714825002)(81542001)(85852003)(93516002)(74662001)(90146001)(86362001)(31966008)(80022001)(74706001)(69226001)(573454002)(77982001)(73972005)(56816005)(25636003)(20776003)(76796001)(80976001)(51856001)(53806001)(63696002)(76482001)(54356001)(65816001)(83332001)(47736001)(83322001)(44976005)(49866001)(19580395003)(77096001)(46102001)(564344003)(50986001)(93136001)(81816001)(54316002)(59766001)(56776001)(568964001)(76176001)(79102001)(81342001)(4396001)(47976001)(92726001)(36756003)(76786001)(33656001)(92566001)(15852003)(73022006)(5416002)(11937685003);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:HKNPR03MB403;H:col0-omc2-s1.col0.hotmail.com;CLIP:65.55.34.75;FPR:;RD:col0-omc2-s1.col0.hotmail.com;MX:1;A:1;LANG:; X-Forefront-PRVS: 00979FCB3A X-MS-Exchange-Organization-MessageDirectionality: Incoming X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.112.28;CTRY:US;IPV:NLI;EFV:NLI;SFV:NSPM;SFS:(6009001)(619001)(199002)(189002)(4396001)(84326002)(71186001)(83072002)(81342001)(85306002)(573454002)(74502001)(80022001)(81686001)(77806003)(74876001)(87836001)(31966008)(85852003)(74366001)(90146001)(5406001)(81542001)(56816005)(47446002)(15714825002)(74662001)(65816001)(512934002)(51856001)(20776003)(69226001)(87266001)(76482001)(77982001)(80976001)(47736001)(77096001)(47976001)(83322001)(6806004)(50986001)(46316001)(19580395003)(25636003)(79102001)(83332001)(44976005)(46102001)(53806001)(76796001)(49866001)(54316002)(76786001)(564344003)(93136001)(33656001)(76176001)(63696002)(54356001)(73972005)(92726001)(56776001)(36756003)(93516002)(568964001)(59766001)(92566001)(81816001)(86362001)(74706001)(82202001)(15852003)(73022006)(5416002)(11937685003);DIR:INB;SFP:;SCL:1;SRVR:DBXPR04MB319;H:emea01-am1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com;CLIP:157.56.112.28;FPR:;RD:emea01-am1-obe.ptr.protection.outlook.com;A:1;MX:1;LANG:; X-MS-Exchange-Organization-Network-Message-Id: 0cbe7a67-3163-45b4-2645-08d0e43e50d8 X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AVStamp-Service: 1.0 Received-SPF: SoftFail (DBXPR04MB319: domain of transitioning hotmail.com discourages use of 157.56.112.28 as permitted sender) X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SCL: 1 X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: AM1FFO11FD055.protection.gbl X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous
AngryTechnician Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Looks like Hotmail have removed the X-Originating-IP header they used to have, which is a shame. Depending on the level of offensiveness of the image, you may be able to involve law enforcement. If the message is "grossly offensive, indecent, obscene, menacing or false" it is an offence under The Communications Act 2003 section 127. The police would be able to formally request more detail from Microsoft about the sender. Even if that criteria isn't met, or if involving the police isn't desirable, I'm sure many of your teachers will be familiar with the concept of using the threat of involving the police to extract a confession from pupils. Edited January 22, 2014 by AngryTechnician
BKGarry Posted January 22, 2014 Author Posted January 22, 2014 Thank you all, I didn't find it that offensive, it is an image of a t-shirt with a sheep looking over it's shoulder and the words "#1 Sheep Sh**ger" (without the stars) the teachers himself isn't too worried, this pressure is coming from the deputy head to find out who it is.
tekins Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Hotmail have Microsoft servers as the originating IP (received from), they will however have the users own IP stored somewhere, good luck in getting it though!
Gaz Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Its kids being kids. He should probably come in wearing the t-shirt. The only one that doesn't laugh is the guilty one as they will be more shocked than the rest lol. Don't actually try that^ At least you have the time the email was sent so you could send an email to the parents to check their computer history around the time. They also probably used Google to do the search so looking at the history on Google too just in case they deleted the browser cache.
BKGarry Posted January 22, 2014 Author Posted January 22, 2014 Thank you @Gaz TBH I am not THAT worried, I will be waiting for the decision from the Deputy Head
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