CapnPugwash Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 Hi folks, I think I know the answer to this all ready but just to be sure: Is there any way at all to find out which teachers/staff have accessed a particular users details? From similar threads I've read, I'm guessing the answer is NO.
CapnPugwash Posted December 12, 2013 Author Posted December 12, 2013 digging in deep through this forum, someone mentioned 'SQL profiler' - anyone know if this is worth pursuing?
Grey-gear Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) If you have managing writes to make users you can see who has what policies, if I was doing it I would look at the users with System Manager 6. It may be different for yourself. Edited December 13, 2013 by Grey-gear Because it did not make sense the first time
CapnPugwash Posted December 13, 2013 Author Posted December 13, 2013 Not quite sure what you are saying, perhaps I need to rephrase the question: If all teaching staff have read access to all student records Can I find out which teachers have accessed which records? (where no change has been made, they have just accessed the record)
Grey-gear Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Oh? I think if you go to the sims server and have a look at the SQL I think that may show you what they been on but that could be if they have made changes only. Sorry I can't help more I never tried doing this myself.
vikpaw Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 You'd be hard pushed to track read events. Tracking changes is hard enough
CapnPugwash Posted December 13, 2013 Author Posted December 13, 2013 Yeah... I think it's impossible, I just needed it confirming. It's not actually an issue as such, senior leadership are just looking at how secure our data is. I am a bit surprised that SIMs doesn't do this... I realise it'd generate a pretty HUGE log file that you'd probably never need to look at but I think parts of the NHS does this with their patient management systems... and it makes sense to do so. I don't think the Head will be pleased, especially given the cost of SIMs
jinnantonnixx Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) It's not possible. Just logging into SIMS reads pupil data (through the home page widgets). Complete, all-user table scans are done frequently for many tasks, even if the pupil data is not displayed on screen (e.g. aggregate stats) So, in a nutshell, the answer is no. In places like the DVLA, a screen deals with a single, individual record - there are no pages of records like in SIMS. At the DVLA, every record access/view is logged. It's a different situation entirely. Edited December 13, 2013 by jinnantonnixx 1
CapnPugwash Posted December 13, 2013 Author Posted December 13, 2013 Ah... That explains it. Now it does make sense, Cheers!
matt40k Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 Shame Capita can't give an option to use MS-SQL Audit, loads better then using profiler - can pick what tables to audit and less of a performance impact. OK don't think it works on Express but hey.
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