kevinmcaleer Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 <---getting a bit off topic here but---> If a vpn is not an option in your Local Authority, you could try http://www.gotomypc.com or http://www.mywebexpc.com for remote access. I'd say its only really useful for network administrators or possibly senior management. gotomypc isn't free, but mywebexpc allows up to 5 pcs for free. I'd used them both and they're very good. All you need to be able to access is the website from within the school (the Local Authority may block it; proxy avoidance) and have port 443 access (for SSL). -Kev
Geoff Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 Up here in lancs you can tunnel anything and its dog through on SSL (port 443) unfiltered.
Netman Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 Whats the cost of sharepoint these days? Under the Schools Agreement about £230 pa for Sharepoint Portal Server and £2 per CAL... Had it installed at half term and have got to say it's an exellent resource. Have published it to the real world through ISA server using an SSL certificate which is working fine so far. It's early days but would say it will be the killer app in this school. If anyone of the more senior members of the forum would like to take a look, PM me and I'll give you the url and a guest login.
Geoff Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 How does it count CALs? Per connection? Per User? What's a sensible number for an internet facing sharepoint portal?
kevinmcaleer Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 Sharepoint cals (with School agreements) are for the total number of computers in your school. (per seat). -Kev
Ric_ Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 What's the real-world advantage of Sharepoint Portal Server over Sharepoint Services (which is free)?
Netman Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 Yep - had to buy the amount of CALS based on devices in school. However, after some very hard questioning of MS licensing and some very confused answers at times, we were told that that was sufficient and that we could publish externally and allow domain users to connect. It works out about right - if you licence say 200 pcs under the school agreement you'll have to order 200 CALS. For that sort of number of pcs you'll probably have up to about 800 users. I would expect no more than 50 or so concurrent external connections from that sort of setup...
Netman Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 What's the real-world advantage of Sharepoint Portal Server over Sharepoint Services (which is free)? The full story is here: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;830320 But in short Portal Server has these additional features... Automatic categorization Audiences Topic areas News Personal sites Shared services Single sign-on Site directory User profiles Too early in my deployment to give a real life example though...
Geoff Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 I would expect no more than 50 or so concurrent external connections from that sort of setup... What happens when Google crawls your Sharepoint Portal then?
Netman Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 I would expect no more than 50 or so concurrent external connections from that sort of setup... What happens when Google crawls your Sharepoint Portal then? It can't unless it knows a username and password on my domain methinks...
indie Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 oh and a nice robots.txt User-Agent: * Disallow: /
kevinmcaleer Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 in brief, sharepoint services sites exist as islands. sharepoint portal brings them all together by allowing content from 'island' sites to be pull together and targeted towards 'audiences' <- groups of users. It also allows full text searching of all the 'island' sites. -Kev
browolf Posted November 30, 2005 Author Posted November 30, 2005 you get a trial of sharepoint server : http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=16006564-4575-4463-920d-c920b4aeae64&DisplayLang=en and for those that need, like me: server 2003 trial http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/trial/default.mspx
SpuffMonkey Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 <---getting a bit off topic here but---> If a vpn is not an option in your Local Authority, you could try http://www.gotomypc.com or http://www.mywebexpc.com for remote access. I'd say its only really useful for network administrators or possibly senior management. gotomypc isn't free, but mywebexpc allows up to 5 pcs for free. I'd used them both and they're very good. All you need to be able to access is the website from within the school (the Local Authority may block it; proxy avoidance) and have port 443 access (for SSL). -Kev I recommend logmein - which works well and is free https://secure.logmein.com
kevinmcaleer Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 Thanks spuffmonkey I'd also recommend http://www.logmein.com. The only differences between the pay per use and the free ones seems to be in the extra functionality: file transfers between local and remote workstations, remote printing and so on. I personally used http://www.gotomypc.com for just over 2 years, its a pay per use, but its really quick and you can even use it on a pocket PC. It also lets you resize the window and the remote desktop shrinks, looks very cool. http://www.gotoassist.com and http://www.gotomeeting.com are also worth a look. I should get shares...
browolf Posted November 30, 2005 Author Posted November 30, 2005 OMG!! logmein.com is soooo coool. its a bit slow but it works ha ha ha.
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