[ubuntu] Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Released

[Arthur]

It's out!

 

Website: releases.ubuntu.com/raring/

 

Edited April 25, 2013 by Arthur

[jinnantonnixx]

I've just installed it on my laptop and I am well impressed.

It's much faster than 12.04.

 

I upgraded to 12.10 twice and both times were a catastrophe; I had problems with just about everything. I used LMDE until I had an ISO of Ubuntu 13.04. Everything looked good from the live boot, so I took the plunge and installed.

 

Considering this release is so new, it's looking very good.

Edited April 25, 2013 by jinnantonnixx

[CAM]

That video looks more like catch-up then new features. Window snap has been around ages and are they really showing off two toggle boxes for some sidebar buttons?

[Arthur]

That video looks more like catch-up then new features.

I should have posted this one...

 

[SYNACK]

I should have posted this one...

 

 

so, Linux 8 then

Edited April 25, 2013 by SYNACK

[Out_of_Sync]

I just installed 12.10 yesterday

[jinnantonnixx]

I just installed 12.10 yesterday

 

12.10, for me at least, was the worst Ubuntu release. It was very buggy. I'd recommend you go to 13.04 unless you have a very good reason not to!

 

I found that 12.04 was very stable, though.

[Out_of_Sync]

No real reason, just had the iso here

[CyberNerd]

so, Linux 8 then

 

That tiled "no-desktop" look was introduced on the EEPC in 2007, a couple of years before win7 was released.

I recall that ASUS had a lot of people return the eepc because people didn't like the look of the interface without a desktop.

[SYNACK]

That tiled "no-desktop" look was introduced on the EEPC in 2007, a couple of years before win7 was released.

I recall that ASUS had a lot of people return the eepc because people didn't like the look of the interface without a desktop.

 

Yea but that had the added benifit of almost zero compatibility with things that people actually ran at the time.

[CAM]

I used 12.10 and found performance poor. Installed 12.04 and it was better (but the KDE variant had crashes because of Jockey before I ran software update!).

 

13.04...is it more then just UI updates? I'm not awfully excited at a lens tie-in to online stores or being able to read legal notices in an about dialogue!

[jinnantonnixx]

I used 12.10 and found performance poor. Installed 12.04 and it was better (but the KDE variant had crashes because of Jockey before I ran software update!).

 

13.04...is it more then just UI updates? I'm not awfully excited at a lens tie-in to online stores or being able to read legal notices in an about dialogue!

 

13.04 feels much slicker that 12.04. There are definitely some noticeable performance improvements. 12.10 was terrible, I had wireless failures after a kernel upgrade, random crashes, and so on, so I stuck with 12.04 which was very stable and fairly bug-free until I upgraded to 13.04.

 

I don't like the Amazon lens thing, I switch this off from the Privacy toggle switch. I realise Ubuntu is heavily funded by Canonical, but I think this is the wrong approach to an income stream.

 

My favourite distos, in order:

 

1. Ubuntu - Unity simply works for me, I like it

2. LMDE - slick Cinnamon interface on Debian testing.

3. Sabayon - Brilliant distro with pre-compiled Gentoo packages

4. SolusOS - very slick disto based on Debian stable (6/Squeeze) but with non-free binaries and codecs so it works out of the box. (Debian Stable with wireless - hooray!). The maintainers have upgraded a few packages, including Firefox, so it's not as stale as Debian Stable. If you are setting up an install-and-forget system for somebody, this is worth a look, and has a very nice, traditional interface.

Edited April 26, 2013 by jinnantonnixx

[CyberNerd]

I don't like the Amazon lens thing, I switch this off from the Privacy toggle switch. I realise Ubuntu is heavily funded by Canonical, but I think this is the wrong approach to an income stream.

 

I agree - but their other income streams seem to be equally stupid. I called Canonical for a quote for a centrally managed desktop suite. No kidding they wanted £50 per device per year - that was their education pricing! This is essentially for the canonical version of Spacewalk. Go figure.

[CAM]

Gaming support any better? That's the killer for me. But with SimCity and BF3 out of the picture and no real games to play I am not currently OS bound by an awful lot.

[Zenden]

12.10, for me at least, was the worst Ubuntu release. It was very buggy. I'd recommend you go to 13.04 unless you have a very good reason not to!

 

I found that 12.04 was very stable, though.

 

Ditto!

[CAM]

OK I set up a dual boot and.....my god stay away from this awful buggy piece of crap.

 

Within minutes I ran into severe problems on a rig that has had Linux installed on it before.

 

- Installer crashes on trying to access the partition manager. Had to look up a command to kill the installer so it would work.

- Compiz degrades performance to the point 3D titles are utterly unusable due to lag and severe tearing of the screen. I cannot fix this problem and spent hours trying to fix it.

- Just trying to install Steam wanted a million login details and passwords.

- Keyring keeps popping up bugging me on login.

- Compiz refresh rate keeps resetting to 50 (WTF?) on login and at one point left me with no UI trying to disable it to stop this piece of garbage from interfering.

- The system runs very slowly. CCSM had to be killed to get rid of it as it crashed to a blank window.

- Crashes kept happening on the settings screens causing an error report box to come up and want my password multiple times and throwing up a dozen damned error message boxes.

 

Sorry to say it to any Linux fans here, but I've sat here all evening trying to get this working and it refuses to co-operate and is so unstable and hostile. It's worse then WIndows 8. :/

 

EDIT - Finally found a "solution" to my problem...at nearly 2am! The downside is I have to set to refresh in Compiz manually every time I start and it sort of fixes the poor 3D performance. But it still isn't smooth! Unfortunately even though Compiz is killing the OS for gaming, there is no 2D mode to fall back on as disabling Compiz leaves you up the creek.

Edited April 28, 2013 by CAM

[CyberNerd]

I installed it on the laptop and am having the same compiz performance problems. Previously running Centos with no probs on the same machine (no compiz here).

 

What was the "fix" to refresh compiz manually?

[rich_tech]

I have it installed here now as a dual boot with windows 8 and it works very well for me, minor problems as per usual with my onboard graphics card for the install (more to do with my setup) buts it working well so far and very, very fast I find so far. Privacy is improved now in that all the amazon stuff can be turned off, I followed three different "after install" guides to get the best out of it for me. nVidia drivers were a bit tricky to update, but its now working absolutely fine for me here. no horrible issues so far.

 

Its also running "ok" on my old laptop, better than 12.10 did thats for sure

[CAM]

Seems a mixed bag then, are you on nVidia? I am just finding this version to have terrible performance this time round, might give KDE a try before letting Win 8 reclaim the partition space because they still have a Compiz free option.

@CyberNerd: Download compizconfig-settings-manager and change Refresh Rate to 100 every login. Sort of worked for me but the value won't stick.

[CyberNerd]

Intel graphics on mine. I'll give it a try and if it works will try and find how to get the setting to stick. Thanks

[CyberNerd]

@CAM untick "detect refresh rate" and the setting is persistent between reboots (for me at least)

Seems to have fixed the problem for me as well.

Occasionally a reboot fails to launch the gdm/login screen though. buggy piece of crap IMO.

[CAM]

I do untick detect refresh rate but it keeps going back to 50.

[rich_tech]

I have an nvidia GTS 450 as my "main" card here, but I regularly get issues installing OS software, because of the nvidia 6100 built into the mobo (even though I do things like disable it in BIOS, telling it to boot other cards first and so on), it still boots up and wants to be the initial boot video, Windows 8 was a nightmare to work out, I have to basically install it with the onboard and then add in the GTS450 again at one point.

 

This time around though on 13.04, I did a search on the ubuntu forums for a guide on how to update the nvidia drivers, rather than just have a go myself here and it seems to have worked fine for me, I am very impressed with it overall so far, just virtualbox and vpn issues to sort out and I am 100% then.

 

tried CS:S earlier and DOD:S after downloading stuff on steam, seems lovely, fast and clean now for me.

Edited April 28, 2013 by rich_tech

[CAM]

I just tried to use Ubuntu to create a Kubuntu USB install. Hung at 94%, dared to open a browser and the desktop effects hung the system for about five mins and remained choppy. Now it won't let me create a USB disk. I will have to use Windows to make one.

 

My experiences with vanilla Ubuntu are getting worse and worse.

[CyberNerd]

My experiences with vanilla Ubuntu are getting worse and worse.

 

 

I think its a beta for mint