mrwobbly Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 Has anyone allowed home access to a staff shared drive and if so how did you go about it?
ass17 Posted March 16, 2013 Posted March 16, 2013 We do it through Remote Desktop. We provide staff with an RDP file configured to map local drives, printers and have the IP address and port number already stored within, so that when they run the file they just need to login. There are alternatives like using a VPN to your network, then give staff instructions on how to map a network drive, once connected. 1
mrwobbly Posted March 16, 2013 Author Posted March 16, 2013 “There are alternatives like using a VPN to your network, and then give staff instructions on how to map a network drive, once connected.” I have VPN setup for the head, deputy and business manager to access their desktops. The teachers work from laptops which are tuned off or at home with them. It’s a singe entry Primary with a CC3 server. Can VPN work to just map a drive in such a situation.
ass17 Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Just remember VPN's can be setup on the router or via a third party software like Microsoft TMG/ISA.
edutech4schools Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 My primary schools use either remote desktop or home access plus. HAP+ is a project on this site, search for it. 1
CyberNerd Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Sync home drives to Google drive. Install Cloudconnect and all office files sync to GDrive and the server automatically. 1
Steven_Cleaver Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Sort of use RDP Gateway with our own software front end for added security and to force Dual Factor encrypted authentication to any MIS systems, also easy management front end and allows access for all students and staff or whoever you like but also used Home Access + originally which was very good. 1
SYNACK Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 DirectAccess in W7 makes this transparent, now that Server 2012 only needs one IP (we only ever get one in NZ) we can finally look at implementing it. 1
mrwobbly Posted March 17, 2013 Author Posted March 17, 2013 Some really useful info here so far, which has been banked. RDP is not an option as we are talking about class teacher laptops which are taken home. Google are shutting down CloudConnect on the 30th April. Access to routers and VPN are controlled by the broadband provider and need county approval for changes. This is a primary school with no money and a dire need of a complete network infrastructure, server and client upgrade. It looks like HAP may be the answer. Currently a 2003 server with XP clients and a built in bottle neck where all the school network traffic is down one 100 Mb link including the MIS.
Steven_Cleaver Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Some really useful info here so far, which has been banked. RDP is not an option as we are talking about class teacher laptops which are taken home. Google are shutting down CloudConnect on the 30th April. Access to routers and VPN are controlled by the broadband provider and need county approval for changes. This is a primary school with no money and a dire need of a complete network infrastructure, server and client upgrade. It looks like HAP may be the answer. Currently a 2003 server with XP clients and a built in bottle neck where all the school network traffic is down one 100 Mb link including the MIS. Going by your requirements and limitations HAP does sound like the answer but would just be tempted to have this on seperate Server or VM if possible.
SimpleSi Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 ...all the school network traffic is down one 100 Mb link including the MIS. 100MB is a bottleneck????? We get 10MBs in my schools if we are lucky! For orig problem I install Dropbox on server - create folders for each teacher and then let them save/load to it at home/school and just restrict access to it in school to their class computers My main problem is trying to get Headteachers to pay for >2GB who don't see any need for it (as they don't have a headteacher on their back saying where's the planning) and they can have full remote access to their machines via CLEO provided SGD for free 1
mrwobbly Posted March 17, 2013 Author Posted March 17, 2013 I think you misunderstood, the CC3 server, SIMS server,a number of WAP's and the Espresso media servers are on a single 100 Mb wired uplink to the core switch.
edutech4schools Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 RDP is not an option as we are talking about class teacher laptops which are taken home. class teacher laptops from home is what rdp is all about. install remote desktop (was called terminal services) with the gateway role and they can access a remote desktop from home using port 443. 2
mrwobbly Posted March 17, 2013 Author Posted March 17, 2013 class teacher laptops from home is what rdp is all about. install remote desktop (was called terminal services) with the gateway role and they can access a remote desktop from home using port 443. Sorry for sounding a bit thick but are saying they can get a remote desktop via VPN on a 2003 server without having a physical machine to connect to.
nickbro Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Home Access Plus+ for all, staff have RemoteApps (i.e. SIMS/Word via RD and RD Gateway) and I have SSTP vpn access.
mrwobbly Posted March 17, 2013 Author Posted March 17, 2013 Home Access Plus+ for all, staff have RemoteApps (i.e. SIMS/Word via RD and RD Gateway) and I have SSTP vpn access. RD, RD Gateway and SSTP. Are they not Server 2008?
nickbro Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 I use 2008 R2, but it's the same for 2012. I'm sure the RD Gateway was TS Gateway in 2003. SSTP is not limited to 2008, it's part of the routing and remote access components, and they haven't changed until 2012 since 2000 1
edutech4schools Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Sorry for sounding a bit thick but are saying they can get a remote desktop via VPN on a 2003 server without having a physical machine to connect to. I have it on 2008r2 server but think it is also in 2003. The server when configured can create unlimited desktops for standard users to connect on to. It is a bit like connecting to a physical machine but the server creates a virtual desktop on the fly. Best of all its very stable but a bit of a pain setting up.
edutech4schools Posted March 17, 2013 Posted March 17, 2013 Sorry for sounding a bit thick but are saying they can get a remote desktop via VPN on a 2003 server without having a physical machine to connect to. UPDATE: also you do not need a vpn, at least not in 2008r2 as the user connects over the web using a specially configured remote desktop file or can simply visit a website the is pre built by installing the server role (RDWEB) and the server sends the desktop to the connecting machine, so no silly ports are required, and its very easy for the end users. 2
SYNACK Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 I use 2008 R2, but it's the same for 2012. I'm sure the RD Gateway was TS Gateway in 2003. SSTP is not limited to 2008, it's part of the routing and remote access components, and they haven't changed until 2012 since 2000 SSL VPN only showed up in Serer 2008.
edutech4schools Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Just out of interest but are you running Sims or FMS from the 2003 server? if so you will need to update before the summer I believe.
fiza Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 UPDATE: also you do not need a vpn, at least not in 2008r2 as the user connects over the web using a specially configured remote desktop file or can simply visit a website the is pre built by installing the server role (RDWEB) and the server sends the desktop to the connecting machine, so no silly ports are required, and its very easy for the end users. Does this work from any device? IPADS, Android?
nickbro Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Remote Desktop doesn't work on iPads that well, unless you buy an app for it, and I've only found 1 that supports the RDGateway. 1
fiza Posted March 21, 2013 Posted March 21, 2013 Remote Desktop doesn't work on iPads that well, unless you buy an app for it, and I've only found 1 that supports the RDGateway. Which App was it? ITAP? When you say "doesnt work on IPADS that well" can you define that? Does it work to some degree?
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