Tall_Paul Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Hi all I'm currently running SCCM 2007 R3, and am planning my migration to 2012 SP1. I've been reading the excellent guides on Windows Noob but am wondering if I should 'bite the bullet' and go for a Server 2012 with SQL 2012 Standard installation. My thinking behind this is I would like this to be a one shot migration, and if I install SCCM 2012 onto a Server 2008 R2 box I will only have to upgrade that at some point in the future. So, has anyone here done an install onto a Server 2012 box with SQL 2012 Standard? The only link I've found on the internet has been this one but that was back in October. So I suppose I'm asking everyone's advice really. Would you recommend waiting a while until more people have upgraded to Server 2012, or go for an SCCM upgrade but use the Windows Noob guide and put it onto a Server 2008 R2 box. Our SCCM 2007 R3 installation is working fine, so there is no big rush, but it is something I'd like to do soon (even if just for the ability to deploy Windows 8). Thanks.
Gatt Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Not done it yet - my installation is on a 2008 R2 box, to a separate 2008 R2 (SQL & Windows) Looking into whats needed to upgrade... Biggest issue for me is that its a Hyper-V VM and there are issues upgrading to Windows 2012...
Tall_Paul Posted February 7, 2013 Author Posted February 7, 2013 Essentially it's just me being lazy really. I don't want to go through the considerable pain of a migration onto a Server 2008 R2 box when I will have to go through the pain again to upgrade to Server 2012. Conversely I know from bitter experience that if you don't get the basic SCCM installation right then you are a storing up a whole world of pain for yourself further down the line (and a lot of troubleshooting and reading of log files). The only good thing is we aren't in a rush to deploy either Windows 8 or Server 2012.
Soulfish Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Looking at doing the same here (SCCM 2012 on Server 2012 w/SQL 2012). Aiming to try and get the new SCCM 2012 system setup within the next week to carry out some imaging in half term. Who knows if I'll actually be able to do that though!
Tall_Paul Posted February 7, 2013 Author Posted February 7, 2013 In an ideal world I'd have a week or two to dedicate myself to trying to do the install, documenting it, then sharing it on the web. However, this is the real world so I'm hoping some other kind soul out there will be able to do it!
deano Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 I went for the server 2008 r2 and SQL 2008 r2 as I deployed before SP1 was released. The products are old hat but work, as well as tried and tested
tmcd35 Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 i've installed SCCM to Server 2012/SQL 2012. Installed without a hitch using the windows-noob destructions for Server/SQL 2008. Haven't actually started using he server yet had I have some Hyper-V updates I want to get done first, but I saw nothing abnormal in the setup to give me cause for concern when I finally get round to using it.
jonnykewell1 Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 can anyone fill me in on SCCM. i've never come across it and want to know more about it's benefits and what it actually does. How easy it is to set up and use etc.. cheers. jonny
tmcd35 Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 can anyone fill me in on SCCM. i've never come across it and want to know more about it's benefits and what it actually does. How easy it is to set up and use etc.. cheers. jonny System Center Configuration Manager - does what it says on the tin Pretty much complete cetralised management of everything to do with deploying computers and software... OS deployement and imaging, windows updates, software deployment, anti-virus, etc. Ease of install, on a scale of 1-10: 3 (with instructions from Windows-noob, -1 without) 1
jonnykewell1 Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 ahh cool sounds like a pretty good tool to me. just found a virtual lab giving an introduction on how to use it. will have a play
Norphy Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) @Tall_Paul I installed ConfigMgr 2012 in a Windows 2012 environment in my test lab and all the various components worked fine. However, after a couple of days or so of using Windows 2012 extensively I just wanted to punch a hole in my monitor. Underneath it all, it's a superb OS but given the interface, I'm pretty sure that you're not actually supposed to want to use it! I've been setting up my production environment on 2008 R2 servers for the sake of my own sanity. @jonnykewell1 There isn't a short answer to your question. ConfigMgr has a lot of different functions, it can be used for operating system deployment, software installation, OS/software patching, software and hardware inventories, software usage tracking, it can handle NAP, it can manage the Microsoft Antivirus product and much more besides. However, it is not a simple product. Setting the thing up is complicated, using it is complicated. I've spent this last week and a half setting my production environment up and I'm still barely half way through it. Microsoft themselves say that it is one of their most complicated products. If you're going to use it, I would highly recommend going on the Microsoft training courses. With all due respect, having a play in a virtual lab is not enough. Edited February 8, 2013 by Norphy
Tall_Paul Posted February 8, 2013 Author Posted February 8, 2013 A quick question to those of you who have done a successful 2012 install and followed the Windows Noob guide for 2008 R2 installation. I got stuck at Step 7. Install .NET 3.5.1 and WCF Activation Can I ask how those of you who have done it did steps 7 to 9 on server 2012? I want to make sure the 'base' installation is right otherwise it's going to be a problem further on down the line.
Norphy Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 You need WCF activation for the software update point. I installed the WCF options under .NET 4.5 and the HTTP activation stuff under NET 3.5. I don't know if that was all necessary but it worked.
Tall_Paul Posted February 8, 2013 Author Posted February 8, 2013 To anyone investigating SCCM, it is incredibly complicated. I'm done the 3 day Microsoft course and passed the exam and didn't think the course was much cop to be honest. I've had two years adminstering, fault finding and using SCCM and there is no substitute for using the product and getting your feet wet.
Tall_Paul Posted February 8, 2013 Author Posted February 8, 2013 You need WCF activation for the software update point. I installed the WCF options under .NET 4.5 and the HTTP activation stuff under NET 3.5. I don't know if that was all necessary but it worked. Thanks for that. Was installing BITS and Remote Differential Compressin pretty straightforward and are you using SQL Server 2012 Standard?
tmcd35 Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 I did a full install of all versions of .NET available under Features then a did a Windows update. I just assumed that somewhere along the line either 3.51 was installed or only 3.5 was needed. WCF took some finding but I noticed it was listed as Windows Process Activation Service under Features. I also found Windows-noob doesn't mention installing WAIK or which components are needed. When I tried to install SCCM I got an error about WAIK being missing and listing what parts of it needed to be installed (no I can't remember what they where).
Norphy Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) Thanks for that. Was installing BITS and Remote Differential Compressin pretty straightforward and are you using SQL Server 2012 Standard? BITS and RDC are just features, you need to tick the boxes just like you did with Server 2008R2. 2012 SP1 needs the Windows 8 ADK, the new version of WAIK. You need everything apart from the assessment and SQL services. To anyone investigating SCCM, it is incredibly complicated. I'm done the 3 day Microsoft course and passed the exam and didn't think the course was much cop to be honest. I've had two years adminstering, fault finding and using SCCM and there is no substitute for using the product and getting your feet wet. I've done the 2007 and 2012 administration courses, both of which were five days. For 2012, the official three day course is a installation course only. While I agree that there is no substitute for experience, I have found the courses invaluable and a very good place to start. ADK has to be installed before ConfigMgr, it's a prerequisite. Edited February 8, 2013 by Norphy
Tall_Paul Posted February 8, 2013 Author Posted February 8, 2013 Sounds like I will have to run through the install and see what happens! Did you install ADK before or after SCCM?
Tall_Paul Posted February 8, 2013 Author Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) I've done the 2007 and 2012 administration courses, both of which were five days. For 2012, the official three day course is a installation course only. While I agree that there is no substitute for experience, I have found the courses invaluable and a very good place to start. I think like all these things it depends very much on your instructor. I did the 2007 at Firebrand and the instructor, while she knew her stuff, was useless and uninspiring. In fact if I hadn't already installed SCCM I probably wouldn't have bothered after the course. Conversely the instructor I had for the MCITP:SA was absolutely brilliant. Edited February 8, 2013 by Tall_Paul
Norphy Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 I absolutely agree. The instructor I had on my 2007 was fantastic. The 2012 one wasn't so good...
Tall_Paul Posted February 8, 2013 Author Posted February 8, 2013 Thanks for everyone (especially Norphy) who has replied so far. Hopefully I can return the favour to you all at some point, and let's hope this thread might prove useful to other people too. I will update it when I've done my install, though I'm sure I might be back with more questions!
Norphy Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 You're welcome! I'm going through the same thing myself right now, I guess I'm just a few days ahead of you. It's an interesting product, I think you'll find it well worth the invested time.
Tall_Paul Posted February 11, 2013 Author Posted February 11, 2013 Thought I'd add to this thread as I go through my install. Firstly, the SCCM 2012 Prerequisite Checker is very useful.
Tall_Paul Posted February 13, 2013 Author Posted February 13, 2013 Another update: If you have your WSUS server on a separate box to your SCCM server you will need to install the WSUS Admin console on your server. The Microsoft download is no longer supported under Server 2012 so to install it you will have to: Start PowerShell Console (as Administrator) and run : Install-WindowsFeature -Name UpdateServices-Ui This will install the console only and not run a post-install task. Just connect to remote WSUS Server To run a Primary site prerequisite check, use the following command from within the BIN\X64 folder: prereqchk /pri /sql FQDN of SQL Server /sdk FQDN of SMS Provider (in my case these were both the server I am installing SCCM 2012 onto).
Tall_Paul Posted February 13, 2013 Author Posted February 13, 2013 If, when running the SCCM 2012 prerequisite check from the installer, you get an error message stating Internet Information Services (IIS) website bindings for HTTPS communication protocol is required for some site roles. If you have selected to install site roles requiring HTTPS, please configure IIS website bindings on the specified server with a valid PKI server certificate. You need to follow this guide from Microsoft to issue a certificate from your certification authority.
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