Video Formats help

[SYNACK]

ok. thats good to know.

I can see why web developers get so fed up with IE now, everything else seems to work seamlessly!

 

It's not really IE's fault that it supports user choice of player, if you as a web dev want to take that away then you can, you just have to specify. It's the other browsers swallowing everything up feature wise now so really they are the ones behaving more like old school IE.

Edited January 30, 2013 by SYNACK

[Jamo]

Embedding video is VERY different to linking to videos. Linking is very 1990s.... HTML5 allows streaming and much better bandwidth management.

[CyberNerd]

Embedding video is VERY different to linking to videos. Linking is very 1990s.... HTML5 allows streaming and much better bandwidth management.

 

Thats what I want to show TV shows. I don't want them embedded into a tiny window on a browser.

I guess I'll just let IE users figure it out form themselves.

[Jamo]

Thats what I want to show TV shows. I don't want them embedded into a tiny window on a browser.

I guess I'll just let IE users figure it out form themselves.

 

HTML5 embeds are like youtube style, aren't you just opening yourself up to disk space issues when users right click and download the videos?

[CyberNerd]

HTML5 embeds are like youtube style, aren't you just opening yourself up to disk space issues when users right click and download the videos?

 

BYOD...

[SYNACK]

Thats what I want to show TV shows. I don't want them embedded into a tiny window on a browser.

I guess I'll just let IE users figure it out form themselves.

 

In which case spawning them to a propper media player is better, there is no additional web cack around it when you just want to watch a video, on windows phone when you hit the back key it will jump back to the browser with the press to play icon, once more and your back in whatever non-embeding webserver thing your running.

 

IE in desktop mode should spawn the default media player, wmp, vlc or whatever has the default file association. When the close that the browser will still be behind.

 

If you weren't going to bother to embed you may as we'll have just used mp4.

[Jamo]

Getting very confused here, you started off asking for HTML5 and now you are looking at downloading and playing in the default media player?

[Arthur]

I don't want them embedded into a tiny window on a browser.

HTML5 Full-Screen is the solution to that problem.

[Arthur]

Linking is very 1990s.... HTML5 allows streaming and much better bandwidth management.

+1. Embedding the videos will enable to browser to automatically select the most appropriate format. Asking users to click on a link to a MP4 or WebM file will just lead to confusion and is the opposite of what 99% of websites do when dealing with HTML5 video.

[CyberNerd]

Getting very confused here, you started off asking for HTML5 and now you are looking at downloading and playing in the default media player?

 

no - I wanted it embedded full screen, and that's what I get in Opera, Firefox, Chrome, Android and IOS. In IE it just downloads the file and requires the HTML to be there to stop this.

 

I'll look into the HTML tags to determine browser, I just didn't want to go into so much depth as I assumed all modern browsers would be able to handle it.

[Jamo]

Things to remember with IE is that only 9+ supports HTML 5 and that if your Moodle is hosted internally your IE might pick it up as an intranet site and apply compatibility mode to the site this will effectively disable all HTML 5 support.

 

Check this in Tools/compatibility mode and un- tick show intranet sites in compatibility mode. Might sort out the issues you see :-)

[localzuk]

Would you not simply use a video tag, and then use css to specify margins as auto to fill the browser window?

 

ie.

 

[color=#585535][font=Consolata]video {    max-width: 100%;    height: auto;}[/font][/color]

[CyberNerd]

Would you not simply use a video tag, and then use css to specify margins as auto to fill the browser window?

 

ie.

 

[color=#585535][font=Consolata]video {    max-width: 100%;    height: auto;}[/font][/color]

 

I'm not that into the 1990's style re-writing everything for IE. It's inside moodle, so we just left it where it is and advised not to use IE.

[Jamo]

I'm not that into the 1990's style re-writing everything for IE. It's inside moodle, so we just left it where it is and advised not to use IE.

 

The video tag is HTML5 so certainly not 1990s!

[localzuk]

I'm not that into the 1990's style re-writing everything for IE. It's inside moodle, so we just left it where it is and advised not to use IE.

 

Its not 1990s, its the way you're supposed to do it now with HTML5 and CSS. All other methods are 'old'.

[CyberNerd]

I'm not sure I can do css inside moodle. Anyway project is almost finished.

Teacher records TV program from Mythweb and it automagically gets added to moodle, with search function too.

I'll get the code uploaded somewhere if anyone want to add anything specific for IE.

[Jamo]

That sounds pretty cool actually.

 

You don't need to use the CSS the browsers each have their own take on the video tag, in fact on IE10 I think it looks like one of the best (I know... blasphemy)

 

You could use Moodle Filters to find video files and automagically add the video tag to make them all web 2.0.

 

Filters - MoodleDocs

[localzuk]

I'm not sure I can do css inside moodle. Anyway project is almost finished.

Teacher records TV program from Mythweb and it automagically gets added to moodle, with search function too.

I'll get the code uploaded somewhere if anyone want to add anything specific for IE.

 

You can do a style="blah" instead of full css declaration in that case. Just FYI.

[CyberNerd]

We've released the code now:

http://www.edugeek.net/forums/educational-software/110175-released-moodle-mythtv-mythtranscode-integration-module.html#post942740