indiegirl Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Any ideas? I thought it might be possible to look at the full header of the email, although it appears that apart from the standard to/cc/subject fields, I can't view anything else. All I'm after is a method of tracking down the source IP of an (internal) email... TIA
Geoff Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Exchange isn't RFC compliant when generating headers. You can work round this by either: a) make your clients use IMAP/POP3. That way full headers will be generated. b) make your clients use webmail and use the web server logs.
chrisg Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 You can use message tracking from System Manager, Tools to track messages sent though exchange, If it is a message which was BCC'd this will still tell you the sender and who it went to as long as you have enabled logging on your server. Can you not check logs for where the sender was logged on.
indiegirl Posted March 29, 2006 Author Posted March 29, 2006 I think that's my only alternative. Have enabled message tracking but it appears that it'll only take effect from now, rather than pick up earlier messages (which is what I expected). Off to do some research.... ;-)
Geoff Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Message tracking has serious (potentially crippling) performance implications.
indiegirl Posted March 29, 2006 Author Posted March 29, 2006 That was my other worry, I'll see what I can find out from it overnight, then decide whether to leave it in place or not. I suspect not...
Mintsoft Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Any ideas? I thought it might be possible to look at the full header of the email, although it appears that apart from the standard to/cc/subject fields, I can't view anything else. All I'm after is a method of tracking down the source IP of an (internal) email... TIA can you not just open the email, file-> properties -> details ? so you get like: Received: from MSFWKC223 [10.133.41.34] by moorlands.staffs.sch.uk (SMTPD32-5.04) id AA0B3020206; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:05:47 +0000 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: "itassist" From: "itassist" To: Subject: Printer credits Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:04:16 +0100 Organization: Moorlands Sixthform Centre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C65328.E6CDEBD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RCPT-TO: X-UIDL: 178 Status: U or does it not generate those headers at all?
Geoff Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 or does it not generate those headers at all? Exchange isn't an RFC compliant mail server. It only bothers to generate those headers if you post via IMAP/POP3. ie, if you force the issue.
StewartKnight Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 have you tried Right click on the email -> options -> internet headers?
Geoff Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 That doesn't work for Internal <-> Internal emails that don't leave the message store. Those headers are only generated by the SMTP/IMAP/POP3 interfaces, as I've tried to explain.
Mintsoft Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 bloody microsoft why don't they just use the standards like NORMAL PEOPLE gaarr!
Geoff Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Because they'd have to compete on an even playing field then. Embrace, extend and extinguish
DMcCoy Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I assume it just uses mapi for that and then internal would bypass any normal routes for sending messages. If you have a high use email server would you really want it to do a smtp send and recieve for every internal message? I would guess some other mail servers do the same. Not that I like exchange, I use mdaemon at home because it doesn't mangle my messages and leaves them in a sensible format than I can import and export via imap, while keeping unmangled headers. I used to use Turnpike which is why I'm a bit picky about these things
StewartKnight Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 :oops: Sorry Geoff! Missed al the intenal email m'larkey! That'll teach me to speed read!
Geoff Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I'd suggest Postfix + Zimbra is a viable alternative to Exchange these days. Try the demo.
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