1:1 laptop scheme

[kevin_lane]

I’m trying to collect some information about 1:1 laptop scheme and get some help to support my case in trying to implement them.

 

If they wouldn’t mind please could I ask people to fill in the form

 

https://forms.office.com/e/8nhYmiL9Se

 

Thank you

 

Information collected is anonymous

Edited October 5, 2024 by kevin_lane

[smithson83]

Submitted.

[TechMonkey]

Done. My answer may not fit though as we are running a BYOD system, so devices are the pupils. So, there is 100% take home of devices when they leave.

[simpsonj]

Submitted - happy to chat more if you need more details!

[kevin_lane]

Brill thanks people yea may need to do another survey once I have everything from this one.

[dhicks]

My answer may not fit though as we are running a BYOD system, so devices are the pupils. So, there is 100% take home of devices when they leave.

 

Same here - I've answered, but the answers may not quite fit the questions. We're the exact opposite of the above - the school buys the devices (Chromebooks), they are kept in-school (in classroom-based charging cabinets) and not taken home at all.

[kevin_lane]

i will at some point do another survey regarding this with a few different questions, if that's ok - but got some good answers

[PotNoodleTech]

Done. But do yourself a favour, take the world "laptop" and delete it from your vocabulary. 1:1 windows devices are a total mess both to set up and manage on the daily. You'd be waaay better off looking at 1:1 chromebooks or ipads as they just work.

 

You shoud add another answer to the question What percentage of leavers take up the offer of keeping them for further education: We don't let them keep them, all devices get repurposed for other pupils to use.

Edited October 8, 2024 by PotNoodleTech

[dmj]

Done. But do yourself a favour, take the world "laptop" and delete it from your vocabulary. 1:1 windows devices are a total mess both to set up and manage on the daily. You'd be waaay better off looking at 1:1 chromebooks or ipads as they just work.

 

I couldn't agree with this more. I could easily manage 1000 chromebooks for the cost in time for 100 windows desktops.

[smithson83]

Done. But do yourself a favour, take the world "laptop" and delete it from your vocabulary. 1:1 windows devices are a total mess both to set up and manage on the daily. You'd be waaay better off looking at 1:1 chromebooks or ipads as they just work.

 

You shoud add another answer to the question What percentage of leavers take up the offer of keeping them for further education: We don't let them keep them, all devices get repurposed for other pupils to use.

This may be unpopular, but I can't agree with this. If you're going to do a 1:1 device scheme, you cannot start with the technology. You can't say Chromebooks or iPads are better because they are easier to manage.

 

What benefit are you (or rather SLT) trying to add to the classroom, how will the device make learning better or easier for the pupils.

 

This needs to start from a curriculum focused point, not a technology one. The right device is the one that adds the most to the pupils learning, and this is determined by how it will be used in the classroom, for what purpose, how often, how will it fit into the curriculum and how will the curriculum be written around it.

 

The right device is the device that will be used, that fills a need, and makes learning better.

[dmj]

This may be unpopular, but I can't agree with this. If you're going to do a 1:1 device scheme, you cannot start with the technology. You can't say Chromebooks or iPads are better because they are easier to manage.

 

What benefit are you (or rather SLT) trying to add to the classroom, how will the device make learning better or easier for the pupils.

 

This needs to start from a curriculum focused point, not a technology one. The right device is the one that adds the most to the pupils learning, and this is determined by how it will be used in the classroom, for what purpose, how often, how will it fit into the curriculum and how will the curriculum be written around it.

 

The right device is the device that will be used, that fills a need, and makes learning better.

 

You can factor in the increased management costs of windows, which if done properly would likely preclude them in favour of simplicity anyway

[kevin_lane]

@smithson83

 

Thanks for the reply, I think you have some valid points.

 

Technology cannot be the main focus, like you say

 

“you cannot start with the technology. You can't say Chromebooks or iPads are better because they are easier to manage.”

 

My reasoning around this is just because I wanted to know what other school are using devices for 1:1 and What devices seems to the favourite in schools.

 

It doesn’t matter to much which device but obviously everything is a balancing act,

 

A) cost of Device

B) being able to have manage the device effectively, and securely.

C) Damage control

 

In regards the curriculum point, I think and again it’s something that does need thinking about,

 

I think a lot of lessons are done with laptops or could be done , but understanding the actual benefits of every pupil having a device in lesson time is difficult, because I know i will have a subject push back.

 

Some teachers don’t like the idea of technology, most probably because they don’t feel confident or don’t like change, or it just doesn’t apply to their subject.

 

And that’s the crooks of it

 

some love it as they feel it will bring lots of value.

 

Teachers at one point moaned about going over to a computer system now they can’t function without it - literally

 

Again with the information I’m gathering, and with maybe another survey with other probing questions i can then look inward and see if we have a real need.

 

That’s all

 

 

 

 

This may be unpopular, but I can't agree with this. If you're going to do a 1:1 device scheme, you cannot start with the technology. You can't say Chromebooks or iPads are better because they are easier to manage.

 

What benefit are you (or rather SLT) trying to add to the classroom, how will the device make learning better or easier for the pupils.

 

This needs to start from a curriculum focused point, not a technology one. The right device is the one that adds the most to the pupils learning, and this is determined by how it will be used in the classroom, for what purpose, how often, how will it fit into the curriculum and how will the curriculum be written around it.

 

The right device is the device that will be used, that fills a need, and makes learning better.

[PotNoodleTech]

This may be unpopular, but I can't agree with this. If you're going to do a 1:1 device scheme, you cannot start with the technology. You can't say Chromebooks or iPads are better because they are easier to manage..

 

I see where you are coming from but I do disagree. IT is just a tool like a pencil or a pen, you don't procrastinate over exactly what pen you give someone to draw a diagram, it can be drawn with a pencil pen crayon or marker pen. What matters is giving them the pen in the first place, any device, as long as it works.

 

Now here we come to the crux. Windows laptops are overpriced, and less reliable and for a 1:1 rollout it is the third device out of the three main ones I would chose. Ease of set up ease of management and simplicity/reliability and low cost are what makes 1:1 schemes work or not - so it needs to be considered much more carefully not dismissed as a "lazy it tech who wants less hasle".

 

I've not seen many (any??) whole school daily use cases that actually require a windows laptop other than specialist subjects which should have specialist IT suites. A chromebook or ipad will do the job perfectly for 95% of what is neede on the daily.

Edited October 9, 2024 by PotNoodleTech

[mthomas08]

Have replied, even though we have since pulled the plug on the ICT scheme.

 

In the end, we simply had too many problems with it.