Searching on Startmenu 1809 LTSC vs 2021 LTSC

[Jaan]

Hi all,

 

Not sure whats different here.

 

On our 1809 LTSC PCs (which we're updating) the start menu searching works great.

 

We have redirected start menus, and users can only seach for things that are redirected. Anything that does show up that isn't on the redirected start menu (like VPN for example) just take to to settings/control panel that has most items removed.

 

1809 looks like this when searching for "internet options"

 

 

On the other hand, the 2021 LTSC we're moving to shows "internet options" if you search for it and allows access;

 

 

I can't get to internet options on 1809 ltsc but can on 2021 ltsc.

 

1809 also doesn't show results for "cmd" where as 2021 ltsc does, but its disabled by another policy.

 

Why is the start menu searching different? Have i missed something? policies are the same for both PCs

 

NB: i need to find the policy to stop access to internet options now also, it wasn't an issue in 1809!

 

cheers

Edited May 14, 2024 by Jaan

[CHiLL]

While I can't answer your question, I would ask why you've decided to use LTSC? Unless you have hardware that absolutely cannot change, Current Branch is the recommended deployment for Windows with monthly updates. As I understand it, it isn't like CB of M365 Apps, where monthly updates add extra features and some old features may be depreciated. Instead, you deploy say 23H2 and it'll stay at 23H2, even when 24H2 comes out...unless you push a feature upgrade to specifically upgrade/unlock that version. Windows 10 is stuck on 22H2 and since then it's only been security/critical updates pushed, so wouldn't that effectively act like an LTSC for you (though support/updates for CB ends October 2025).

[mavhc]

Having internet options not blocked was still a problem, edge://settings/?search=internet%20options

 

There is a gpo to block it though

[Jaan]

While I can't answer your question, I would ask why you've decided to use LTSC? Unless you have hardware that absolutely cannot change, Current Branch is the recommended deployment for Windows with monthly updates. As I understand it, it isn't like CB of M365 Apps, where monthly updates add extra features and some old features may be depreciated. Instead, you deploy say 23H2 and it'll stay at 23H2, even when 24H2 comes out...unless you push a feature upgrade to specifically upgrade/unlock that version. Windows 10 is stuck on 22H2 and since then it's only been security/critical updates pushed, so wouldn't that effectively act like an LTSC for you (though support/updates for CB ends October 2025).

 

so this isn't an issue on non ltsc versions?

 

We're a Google site and have no need for all the MS features, and messing around with removing the bloat... That being said, LTSC 2021 is our last 10 image as we are going to 11 soon so will look at the non ltsc then

Edited May 14, 2024 by Jaan

[CHiLL]

so this isn't an issue on non ltsc versions?

 

We're a Google site and have no need for all the MS features, and messing around with removing the bloat... That being said, LTSC 2021 is our last 10 image as we are going to 11 soon so will look at the non ltsc then

I don't have the issue you're describing on either our Windows 10 22H2 CB builds or my own workstation's Windows 11 23H2 build. However, the issue may not be related to that and be something else entirely.

 

Honestly, we don't even remove bloat anymore. I just leave it all in (icons in the start menu included) and use AppLocker to restrict access to the apps.