Google Apps for Education - Generic Student Account

[Duke5A]

I'm pretty sure the answer is is no, but I thought I would ask anyways. I have generic logons for my elementary buildings (year 1 through 5) that can be used to get the kids on netbooks without much fuss. They're simple with simple passwords and don't give access to anything but the computer and filtered Internet. We're transitioning over to Chromebooks now and the year 1 kids are going to have a rough time with signing themselves in. I was thinking of creating generic accounts in Google Apps, but I know it's frowned upon by Google and will most likely get locked automatically. How do you guys deal with this? Thanks.

[fiza]

Have a look at Clever badges

https://clever.com/products/badges

[ADMaster]

I now use clever badges but prior to that I used public sessions.

https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/3017014?hl=en

[fiza]

I now use clever badges but prior to that I used public sessions.

https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/3017014?hl=en

Where do students save things in kiosk mode?

[AlanD]

Simple passwords for public services are not a good idea.

[ADMaster]

In short they don't. They of course have the option of signing into their google account to save things if they want. I setup public sessions for younger students who could not log in themselves. The homepage of the public session is links to educational resources used in the classroom.

When they are old enough to start typing documents that need saved they are old enough to learn to log on.

 

Since the badges have served us well this year. I'll be removing the public session option next year.

[FN-GM]

Have a look at Clever badges

https://clever.com/products/badges

 

Pretty neat!

 

Wish they would work with Windows

[fiza]

Pretty neat!

 

Wish they would work with Windows

Exactly my thoughts. We are implementing G Suite for our primary school over summer but don't have Chromebooks for them so can't use badges. kiosk mode might be the only option for younger students.

[snagrat]

Is Clever Badges free for Chromebooks login?

[fiza]

Is Clever Badges free for Chromebooks login?

I haven't personally used it but it's appears to be free.

 

https://support.clever.com/hc/en-us/articles/202393278-How-much-does-Clever-cost-

[ADMaster]

Yes it is free, I've been using them since September. My understanding is the application developers pay and it is free to schools. Although we have had some applications pass a small fee to us, it is worth it.

[enjay]

Clever Badges do look neat - I wonder how durable they are though...

 

As for the Chromebook question, why not just have everyone "browse as guest"?

[ADMaster]

Clever Badges do look neat - I wonder how durable they are though...

 

As for the Chromebook question, why not just have everyone "browse as guest"?

They are as durable as you make them. You get a PDF that needs printing. Many of our teachers put them on heavier paper with other information then laminated it all together.

[FN-GM]

Clever Badges do look neat - I wonder how durable they are though...

 

As for the Chromebook question, why not just have everyone "browse as guest"?

 

Not prevent compliant.

[Ditto]

Not prevent compliant.

 

Just been asked to create a generic Reception class Google Account. My instinct is no for a number of reasons, not least if they ever want to save anything - it'll be a muddle later. I like the look of clever badges and will look at the possibility of Kiosk and Guest mode if no saving is required. However, the prevent compliance is something I may need to raise, even though I know for reception, they really find it tough to understand. Could you point me to the document/passage that spells this out? In the meantime, I'll try to find out exactly what the teaching staff are looking to do and what the best solution is.

[Ditto]

I now use clever badges but prior to that I used public sessions.

https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/3017014?hl=en

@ADMaster - I've gone through the 'Try it out' option. All it really told me is that the chromebook can scan the QR code and what the Clever interface looks like. I now want to go a bit further and sign up to try this out with our Reception group. When trying to sign up, you are asked to choose from 'Student or family member', 'Teacher or School Admin', 'District Admin' or 'Application Partner'. None of those quite fit the bill - which did you go with? Our scenario at present is simply as a means to get our younger ones logged in to their Google account (we are fully a GSuite for education school with Chromebooks). We are happy to manage our apps from there for now, but may look at the full Clever solution later.

[ADMaster]

@ADMaster - I've gone through the 'Try it out' option. All it really told me is that the chromebook can scan the QR code and what the Clever interface looks like. I now want to go a bit further and sign up to try this out with our Reception group. When trying to sign up, you are asked to choose from 'Student or family member', 'Teacher or School Admin', 'District Admin' or 'Application Partner'. None of those quite fit the bill - which did you go with? Our scenario at present is simply as a means to get our younger ones logged in to their Google account (we are fully a GSuite for education school with Chromebooks). We are happy to manage our apps from there for now, but may look at the full Clever solution later.

 

You will need to sign up as district admin according to this link.

https://support.clever.com/hc/en-us/articles/236009108-How-do-I-bring-Clever-to-my-school-

The terminology and school structure is a bit different between US and UK schools.

I signed up as a district admin because that is what I am, I handle IT for all the schools in our district.

I don't think it is quite the same, but I think our districts are akin to your academy trusts / mats.

 

What is your role / situation that you don't think school or district admin would apply? If your part of a trust perhaps IT for the trust should sign up on behalf of member schools.

 

The district admin role configures the sign on settings, data sync, applications etc. If this is what you will be doing, sign up as district admin. You can always add additional district admins later, or change the account owner.

https://support.clever.com/hc/en-us/categories/200147297

[Ditto]

@ADMaster - thanks for your input on this. I've managed to work my way though and can see the self serve 'International schools' option. I'm one the verge of setting the account up, but need to get the license and user agreement terms checked out - although I don;t think anyone in the school is particularly well qualified for this! I saw one statement about pupil data being held in the US, which may or may not be an issue. Has anyone else in the UK yet implemented Clever Badges and given consideration to T&C's.

[enjay]

I saw one statement about pupil data being held in the US, which may or may not be an issue. Has anyone else in the UK yet implemented Clever Badges and given consideration to T&C's.

No, but we have data with other companies in the US. As long as the host has signed the modified articles, or whatever the thing which replaced Safe Harbor is called, I would have thought this would satisfy your data protection concerns.

[Ditto]

No, but we have data with other companies in the US. As long as the host has signed the modified articles, or whatever the thing which replaced Safe Harbor is called, I would have thought this would satisfy your data protection concerns.

 

Learning as we move forward... Would this be something to do with the Privacy Shield brought about due to Article 29?

Edited May 19, 2017 by Ditto