Trapper Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 From my EES reseller at Capita: You are entitled to the Enterprise version but Microsoft have changed the name of that to Windows 10 Education under volume agreements which hold software assurance (which yours does). The functionality is the same as Enterprise but a lot of the features are specific to education.
Arthur Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) You are entitled to the Enterprise version If you are entitled to the Enterprise edition surely that means you could install Enterprise if you wanted to? http://vgy.me/pvb8jW.png Edited August 3, 2015 by Arthur
JRowley Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Your EES reseller doesn't seem to be very up to date. We know for a fact that Enterprise features the LTSB whereas Education does not, so to say they are functionally the same isn't correct. Plus we have no idea what specialised features (if any) are coming to the Educational version.
Trapper Posted August 4, 2015 Author Posted August 4, 2015 More from them this morning - direct from Microsoft: “Windows 10 Education includes everything in Windows 10 Enterprise except for the Long Term Servicing Branch – which they can use Win 10 Ent bits from VLSC if required – therefore they should use Education version unless they specifically need the LTSB piece
Arthur Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 “Windows 10 Education includes everything in Windows 10 Enterprise except for the Long Term Servicing Branch – which they can use Win 10 Ent bits from VLSC if required – therefore they should use Education version unless they specifically need the LTSB piece There are two separate Enterprise editions on VLSC though: Enterprise and Enterprise LTSB.
Trapper Posted August 4, 2015 Author Posted August 4, 2015 So really would it be better to use Enterprise LTSB to control the new features and prepare staff, or just assume each current branch release will not be a major change and just let WSUS kick it out?
Trapper Posted August 4, 2015 Author Posted August 4, 2015 @Arthur If you want the LTSB use Enterprise LTSB (as there isn't an Education version), if you want the new release model then use Education instead of Enterprise. That is direct from MS. I just think they want their global stats to show which Enterprise installs are in Enterprise environments and which are in Education so they've fudged the licensing.
Trapper Posted August 4, 2015 Author Posted August 4, 2015 Actually thinking it through the change is actually quite clever. All those Windows XP hold outs like the NHS. Once they transfer to Windows 10, they choose the LTSB knowing that future upgrades will not ruin their code. Microsoft puts the problem on hold for a decade.
Arthur Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) if you want the new release model then use Education instead of Enterprise. Both the Education and (non-LTSB) Enterprise editions can use the Current Branch or Current Branch for Business. I can't see any reason why you would choose the Education edition over Enterprise (at the moment at least). http://vgy.me/TUZbx1.jpg www.zdnet.com/article/piecing-together-the-windows-as-a-service-puzzle-for-windows-10/ Those who are on Windows 10 Enterprise -- the most expensive and most fully-featured version of Windows 10 (and one that's available only to Volume Licensees) -- get the most choice. Enterprise customers can mix and match. They'll be able to have any or all of their users on the Current Branch with immediate updates delivered via Windows Update. They'll be able to have any or all of their users on the CBB with the option to use Windows Update for Business or WSUS to get their updates, with the aforementioned right to delay the delivery of new features for a bit. Windows 10 Enterprise users also will be the only group to have access to the Long Term Servicing Branch. This branch allows users to take only security fixes and defer taking any new features and to handle them via Windows Update for Business and/or WSUS. Windows 10 Education -- the volume-licensable version of Windows 10 that will include all the same features as Windows 10 Enterprise, but only for students and teachers -- will get the same options as Windows 10 Pro. Windows 10 Education users will have the option of taking new features, fixes and updates immediately via Windows Update, or slightly deferring when they get new features thanks to the CBB. All those Windows XP holdouts like the NHS. Once they transfer to Windows 10, they choose the LTSB knowing that future upgrades will not ruin their code. Microsoft puts the problem on hold for a decade. Switching to Windows 10 would be too sensible for the NHS. They might migrate to Windows 7. Edited August 4, 2015 by Arthur
Trapper Posted August 4, 2015 Author Posted August 4, 2015 Hey! I'm not arguing about it - I'm just passing along what Capita have received from Microsoft that EES customers have to use Education unless taking LTSB!
dblight Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Following on from another thread on the same subject I have a contact is MS and posted his response http://www.edugeek.net/forums/windows-10/157650-windows-10-education-vs-enterprise-response-ms.html so as not to hijack your thread!
Trapper Posted August 4, 2015 Author Posted August 4, 2015 From t'other post I've got my head around it, and have emailed Capita for comment: OH! I see. It's not a CLEAN install of Enterprise on a home stickered machine, it's an INPLACE upgrade from Home to Enterprise. That's just assinie. Only small schools with no IT team or external support will benefit from this, and even then I doubt they'd run an in place upgrade they'd just run Home edition with local accounts. I've seen it done (They have AD accounts and just use mapped drives with that account!)
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